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Never before seen natural wonders - Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ - Ideas & Suggestions' started by Siptah, May 27, 2017.

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  1. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    There you go - another elimination thread following the usual rules. I used suggestions from the community to get 16 national wonders (3 from each Africa, Asia, North America, South America and Europe + 1 other) we didn't have in any civ game yet. Well, the Lagoon of Seven Cities is only politically in Europe...


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    Round 1:
    1. :trophy: Mount Roraima
    2. :trophy2nd: Grand Canyon
    3. :trophy3rd: Vịnh Hạ Long
    4. :trophy2: Matterhorn
    5. :trophy2: Mount Erebus
    6. Plitvice Lakes
    7. Lake Manasarovar
    8. Okavango Delta
    9. Lake Titicaca
    10. Lagoon of the Seven Cities
    11. Mount Rainier
    12. Rainbow Mountain
    13. Socotra Island
    14. Table Mountain
    15. Ngorongoro Crater
    16. Niagara Falls

    Round 2:
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    16. Lambert Glacier
    17. Serengeti
    18. Cueva de los Cristales
    19. Mammoth Cave
    20. Ko Samui
    21. Wadden Sea
    22. Mariana Trench
     
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  2. Kimiimaro

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    Grand Canyon 20
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities 20
    Lake Manasarovar 20
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 20
    Mount Erebus 20+1=21 - I'd really like it in game. Very unique. Perfect science wonder, and even wonder from Antarctica, which is totally unrepresented continent :p
    Mount Rainier 20
    Mount Roraima 20
    Ngorongoro Crater 20-3=17 - Hard choice from the start, that's rare. Every place in the list is beautiful and wondrous. But I think Ngorongoro Crater fails to impress me as much as the other places here do.
    Niagara Falls 20
    Okavango Delta 20
    Plitvice Lakes 20
    Rainbow Mountain 20
    Socotra Island 20
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long 20
     
    Last edited: May 27, 2017
  3. Xandinho

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    Grand Canyon 20
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities 20
    Lake Manasarovar 20
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 20 + 1 = 21 This would be a beautiful sight on the map.
    Mount Erebus 21
    Mount Rainier 20
    Mount Roraima 20
    Ngorongoro Crater 17 - 3 = 14 Beautiful, but not more impressive than the other places on the list.
    Niagara Falls 20
    Okavango Delta 20
    Plitvice Lakes 20
    Rainbow Mountain 20
    Socotra Island 20
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long 20
     
  4. Siptah

    Siptah Eternal Chieftain

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    Grand Canyon 20
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities 20
    Lake Manasarovar 20
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 21
    Mount Erebus 21
    Mount Rainier 17 (20-3) To me, it seems a less special mountain or place than the others, despite having vivid memories.
    Mount Roraima 20
    Ngorongoro Crater 14
    Niagara Falls 20
    Okavango Delta 20
    Plitvice Lakes 20
    Rainbow Mountain 20
    Socotra Island 21 (20+1) More island wonders would be nice and Socotra is a rather special island anyway.
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long 20
     
  5. Zaarin

    Zaarin My Dearest Doctor

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    Grand Canyon 20
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities 20
    Lake Manasarovar 20
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 21
    Mount Erebus 21
    Mount Rainier 18 (17 + 1) -- One of the most beautiful and visually distinctive massifs in the world--far more recognizable than Everest, for example. Also, coincidentally, my second favorite place in the world after Crater Lake...
    Mount Roraima 20
    Ngorongoro Crater 14
    Niagara Falls 20
    Okavango Delta 17 (20 - 3) -- Big swamps don't really say "wonder" to me.
    Plitvice Lakes 20
    Rainbow Mountain 20
    Socotra Island 21
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long 20
     
  6. Guandao

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    Grand Canyon 20
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities 20
    Lake Manasarovar 20
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 21
    Mount Erebus 21
    Mount Rainier 18
    Mount Roraima 20
    Ngorongoro Crater 14
    Niagara Falls (20-3)=17 Due to the nature of rivers in the game, I don't see how a Waterfall is feasible. Plus there are much more impressive falls than Niagara...
    Okavango Delta (17+1)=18 It's an inland delta. That's a wonder enough for me.
    Plitvice Lakes 20
    Rainbow Mountain 20
    Socotra Island 21
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long 20
     
  7. Amrunril

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    Grand Canyon 20
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities 20
    Lake Manasarovar 20
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 21
    Mount Erebus 21
    Mount Rainier 15 (18 - 3) If you want an impressive but rarely visible mountain from the American northwest, I think Denali is a better choice.
    Mount Roraima 20
    Ngorongoro Crater 15 (14+1) I'd love to see a pure grassland wonder, but this is hard to manage since it's scale, more than inddividual features, that makes grasslands impressive. Ngorongoro and Okavango are probably as close as we can get.
    Niagara Falls 17
    Okavango Delta 18
    Plitvice Lakes 20
    Rainbow Mountain 20 Could someone clarify what this refers to? I did a quick wikipedia search and found over half a dozen mountains with this name.
    Socotra Island 21
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long 20

    The logistics don't seem like an issue to me. You could simply have a river flowing into one corner of the tile and out the opposite one. I do agree that Niagra wouldn't be my first choice for a waterfall wonder.
     
  8. Siptah

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    It's rainbow mountain in Peru, but there are numerous in the world. Usually they are referred to like 'the colored mountains of x' etc. so I thought Rainbow Mountain would be specifically the landscape in Peru. Guess I was wrong. But any of these would be nice. China's and Peru's are arguably the most famous and iconic.

    Niagara wasn't my first choice either. But there weren't many natural wonders from North America named in the original thread and a waterfall wonder seemed nice in my opinion. So I choose this one over may favorite Iguaçu and the Victoria Falls. I agree on the placement: I don't see problems for Waterfall tile wonders or the Okavango delta.
     
  9. Xandinho

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    Grand Canyon 20
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities 20
    Lake Manasarovar 20
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 21
    Mount Erebus 21
    Mount Rainier 15
    Mount Roraima 20 + 1 = 21 Impressive enough. A great mountain lost in the middle of the great Amazon jungle.
    Ngorongoro Crater 15
    Niagara Falls 17 - 3 = 14 If we go to have a waterfall as a wonder, Iguaçu is more impressive.
    Okavango Delta 18
    Plitvice Lakes 20
    Rainbow Mountain 20 .
    Socotra Island 21
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long 20
     
  10. Zaarin

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    Grand Canyon 20
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities 20
    Lake Manasarovar 20
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 21
    Mount Erebus 21
    Mount Rainier 16 (15 + 1) -- I still maintain that its massif is iconic and beautiful.
    Mount Roraima 21
    Ngorongoro Crater 15
    Niagara Falls 11 (14 - 3) -- Been there; the amount of water is impressive but Angel Falls or Victoria Falls would be more impressive wonders. Placement need not be an issue--just make it a two tile wander that straddles a river.
    Okavango Delta 18
    Plitvice Lakes 20
    Rainbow Mountain 20 .
    Socotra Island 21
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long 20
     
  11. Kimiimaro

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    Grand Canyon 20
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities 20
    Lake Manasarovar 20
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 21+1=22 - Very beautiful and unique shaped mountain I'd like to see.
    Mount Erebus 21
    Mount Rainier 16
    Mount Roraima 21
    Ngorongoro Crater 15-3=12 - Doesn't impress me as much as the rest.
    Niagara Falls 11
    Okavango Delta 18
    Plitvice Lakes 20
    Rainbow Mountain 20 .
    Socotra Island 21
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long 20
     
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    Grand Canyon (20+1)=21 Beautiful canyon, a good pick to represent the American Southwest.
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities 20
    Lake Manasarovar 20
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 22
    Mount Erebus 21
    Mount Rainier 16
    Mount Roraima 21
    Ngorongoro Crater 12
    Niagara Falls 11
    Okavango Delta 18
    Plitvice Lakes 20
    Rainbow Mountain (20-3)=17 Pretty obscure choice for a NW. It's beautiful, but I think others take more precedence.
    Socotra Island 21
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long 20
     
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    Grand Canyon 21
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities 20
    Lake Manasarovar 21 (20+1) In a direct competition between Lake Titicaca and this one, I prefer this one. Both are high altitude religious wonders, so abilities would be really easy to find.
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 22
    Mount Erebus 21
    Mount Rainier 16
    Mount Roraima 21
    Ngorongoro Crater 12
    Niagara Falls 8 (11-3) I think there are better waterfall wonders.
    Okavango Delta 18
    Plitvice Lakes 20
    Rainbow Mountain 17
    Socotra Island 21
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long 20

    I think I forgot to add a nice forest wonder, we didn't have one so far iirc and the Pantanal is more of a swamp/jungle thing.
     
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    Grand Canyon 21
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities 20
    Lake Manasarovar 21
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 22 + 1 = 23 I think this would be a beautiful sight on the map
    Mount Erebus 21
    Mount Rainier 16
    Mount Roraima 21
    Ngorongoro Crater 12
    Niagara Falls 8 - 3 = 5 Beautiful, but there are better choices when it comes to waterfalls.
    Okavango Delta 18
    Plitvice Lakes 20
    Rainbow Mountain 17
    Socotra Island 21
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long 20
     
  15. WillowBrook

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    Grand Canyon 22 (21+1) impressive
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities 20
    Lake Manasarovar 21
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 23
    Mount Erebus 21
    Mount Rainier 16
    Mount Roraima 21
    Ngorongoro Crater 12
    Niagara Falls 2 (5 - 3) not impressive
    Okavango Delta 18
    Plitvice Lakes 20
    Rainbow Mountain 17
    Socotra Island 21
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long 20
     
  16. Zaarin

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    Grand Canyon 22
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities 20
    Lake Manasarovar 21
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 23
    Mount Erebus 21
    Mount Rainier 17 (16 + 1) -- One of the few mountains I can recognize by the shape of its massif alone.
    Mount Roraima 21
    Ngorongoro Crater 12
    Niagara Falls 2
    Okavango Delta 18
    Plitvice Lakes 20
    Rainbow Mountain 14 (17 - 3) -- I'd rather see Danxia, which is more impressive than the Peruvian alternative or the American Painted Desert or Painted Hills, IMO.
    Socotra Island 21
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long 20
     
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    Grand Canyon 22
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities 20
    Lake Manasarovar 21
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 23
    Mount Erebus 21
    Mount Rainier 17
    Mount Roraima 21
    Ngorongoro Crater 12-3=9 - Fails to impress me.
    Niagara Falls 2
    Okavango Delta 18
    Plitvice Lakes 20+1=21 - Doesn't fail to impress me.
    Rainbow Mountain 14
    Socotra Island 21
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long 20
     
  18. Guandao

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    Grand Canyon 22
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities (20-3)=17 Too similar in appearance to Crater Lake for me.
    Lake Manasarovar 21
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 23
    Mount Erebus 21
    Mount Rainier 17
    Mount Roraima 21
    Ngorongoro Crater 9
    Niagara Falls 2
    Okavango Delta 18
    Plitvice Lakes 21
    Rainbow Mountain 14
    Socotra Island 21
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long (20+1)=21 A good choice for a SE Asian natural wonder. Probably the most famous place in Vietnam.
     
  19. Siptah

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    this one would most probably be an island wonder though.
     
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    Grand Canyon 22
    Lagoon of the Seven Cities 17
    Lake Manasarovar 21
    Lake Titicaca 20
    Matterhorn 23
    Mount Erebus 21
    Mount Rainier 17
    Mount Roraima 21
    Ngorongoro Crater 9
    Niagara Falls 2
    Okavango Delta 19 (18 + 1) As I said in my Ngorongoro upvote, I'd love to have a grassland wonder, and I think a specific feature within one is likely as close as we'll get.
    Plitvice Lakes 21
    Rainbow Mountain 14
    Socotra Island 18 (21 - 3) Very distinctive in a biological sense, but less so in ways that would show up on a civ map.
    Table Mountain 20
    Vịnh Hạ Long 21
     
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