New challenge: earliest possible UHVs

Yeah as I wrote "UHV screen will come as soon as I finish the game."
I am now near the 1900's and my stability is only improving, tomorrow I'll finish the game for good, should only be 40 more years or so for the tech tree, and just a little more than that for the final UHV.
 
... and keeping your empire until 1940?

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of a VV if you had to wait until 1940 anyway? It is only required in the confirmation. But they do need the tech tree completed, which is not done in the screenshot.
 
I am now near the 1900's and my stability is only improving, tomorrow I'll finish the game for good, should only be 40 more years or so for the tech tree, and just a little more than that for the final UHV.

I think you might have missed the point though, that you don't have a Virtual UHV if you haven't fulfilled all of the conditions (earlier than 1940). So, if you finish the tech tree in say 1936, this will be the earliest possible Virtual UHV date that you could claim.

Your earlier post claimed a virtual UHV in the early 1800s, which cannot be claimed because you don't have all the techs yet even in 1900.

For the German virtual UHV, the hardest time-limiting condition is the tech tree completion - not the conquering of areas. If a virtual UHV only required the conquering of the various areas, this could certainly be done much sooner than 1800. I'd guess about mid-1500s, although I've never tried this to know.
 
Of course. A virtual victory can only be declared when it is real virtual, and not "virtual in the future". You have to get all 3 requirements done, so that you can say: 'if the UHV allowed me to click the end your turn button and win the very next turn', then you have won a virtual UHV. For some UHVs like the Spanish this is a bit vague, but for the sake of the challenge we just leave these in too.

EDIT: cross-posted with blizzrd, he has explained it well enough.
 
Ah I see, I just thought that if it is most likely to happen in the future, and I provide proof that it did, it counts :P
Now I'll have to think of another civ that I could finish the UHV and take AP off the board hmm...
 
Now I'll have to think of another civ that I could finish the UHV and take AP off the board hmm...

Try 3000 BC Japan, I didn't really get good cities since the Chinese were lousy building them. :crazyeye:
 
Today I finished a French 3000 B.C.E. UHV game. It was a very strange game, I started off with about four of each longbowmen, swordsmen, and axemen, along with five workers. The cities that flipped to me were Strasbourg and Marseille. I settled Paris on my starting position and Brest. I immediately started researching engineering, to build Notre Dame, and sent all my starting units to take over Rome. The Roman Empire consisted of two cities at the time... Rome and Pompejji. Rome had only two Praetorians and one archer defending. I took Rome, and destroyed Pompeii. I built the Notre Dame in Paris, even though Strasbourg had better production, to help with a cultural bonus. I chopped forests down to build it quicker. Luckily no other civilization beat me to Notre Dame. After that the game was easy. The only worrisome part was having Paris be the number on cultural city. However, I just made sure to build extra wonders in Paris, again not as good as Strasbourg but I needed to culture. At one point I was worried that Athens was one of the top five cities in culture so I went over there. Turned out it only had the Great Library and was only guarded by two archers. So instead of destroying it, which I would have if it had too many wonders, I kept it for the science bonus. I ended up building the Statue of Liberty in Strasbourg, and using a Great Engineer to quickly build the Eiffel Tower in Paris. The pictures will tell you the rest though. The date is 1745 C.E.
 

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Ah I see, I just thought that if it is most likely to happen in the future, and I provide proof that it did, it counts :P
Now I'll have to think of another civ that I could finish the UHV and take AP off the board hmm...

There are some UHVs that nobody has attempted yet, like the Mongolians: they actually have a quite interesting UHV for a time-related challenge. The Chinese are also to be completed, although that UHV is a little tricky to judge as it requires that your units are safe from the plague. And seriously, somebody please try Egypt! I really want to see somebody to improve it! It's not very hard since it was a first try..
 
Today I finished a French 3000 B.C.E. UHV game. The date is 1745 C.E.

:goodjob:
OP has been updated.
I'm not sure, but I think that this challenge can probably continue under v1.185? I haven't yet upgraded either my RFC or BTS to the most recent patches so I'm not fully aware of the details and changes. But from what I read I didn't see anything which suggests that 1.184 and 1.185 should be considered differently for the purpose of this challenge.

Does anyone have further insights on this subject?
 
Well, you could perhaps just add "1.184" or "1.185" beside each result and judge by yourself if you should keep two or more results depending on the civilizations and the patches.
 
In the 600 C.E. China does not start with machinery anymore, I think.
 
Some starting technologies were changed so it could indeed affect the difficulty of each UHV.
Regarding the Mongolian suggestion, if you check my signature you'll see I just can't finish them :\
It seems so difficult with them and Persia to control the % of the world on time. With Persia the closest I was was 7.89% I think and got to 8.0% 1 turn too late...
 
I am posting a VV Spanish 3000 B.C.E. UHV game, I will post the actual win as well when I finish it. The game was interesting. My capitol was Madrid and I settled Lisboa and Barcelona. With my initial troops I was able to capture Bordeaux, from the French, and destroy the French settled city of Geneva. This helped insure that France would play no major role in Europe for awhile. I researched compass, guilds, optics, traded for calendar, and researched Astronomy. The rate in which I researched technology was atrocious for some reason. I decided to try and capture Rome. However I found that Rome had been destroyed and a very large Greece had control of the Italian Peninsula, The majority of South Eastern Europe, and of course Greece itself. I looked and I saw that Sparta and Athens had almost all of the classical wonders, including The Great Library. I captured these two cities and Greece collapsed shortly after. My tech level then sky rocketed for only a few turns, when I researched Astronomy, and thus got to the Renaissance, it dropped down again. Eventually Portugal spawned, all of its units spawned one tile east of Lisboa. I agreed to the flip and captured it with a horse archer. I was under the impression that should not happen, but I have the latest version of RFC... So Portugal was out of the way. When the first plague hit I decided to finish of France. I used six swordsmen whom I had prepared for a long war with Portugal, Madrid was constantly producing units. I destroyed Paris, and France collapsed shortly after with their city two tiles North East of Barcelona. After that, in the late 1300's and early 1400's Germany declared war on the Netherlands. I decided to destroy the Netherlands with two conquistadors while it was busy fighting Germany. This proved to be unnecessary as Germany destroyed them without my help. Anyways, the reason I am going into this is because I never destroyed England. by 1670 I had blockaded all of the Eastern Seaboard of North America, and by 1690 I had destroyed their last island cities near Central America, not sure if that counts as North America in RFC.

Anyways, currently the VV is 1703 C.E. however if I finish the game, post the save on the victory date and using the game playback to prove no other European civilizations settled America, can the VV be the time I had control of Aztec and Incan land? Again, I need to finish the game to see the exact date on the playback.



Edition: I finished the game, screen shot of the win is posted below. Three islands just north of South America were colonized by the British, do these islands count as part of North America? If they do not then nobody but myself has colonized North America, in which case the win would be in either in 1510 or 1585. in 1515 I owned all of the cities that the Aztecs and Incans had, by 1585 my cultural borders, and two extra cities, encompassed even more land, though I am not sure that was necessary.
 

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I thought the Spanish UHV requires NO cities in the Americas, i.e. both North and South America and the islands.
 
I thought the Spanish UHV requires NO cities in the Americas, i.e. both North and South America and the islands.

I thought it was just North America... I guess Blizzrd will have to be the judge.

I just played a Mayan game and achieved VV at 740 C.E. Settled Oaxaca as my capitol and Tuitan as my second city. I initially tried to gun for the Temple of Kukulkan, by researching Code of Laws and building it in Tuitan. However I then was not able to get the Calendar in time, I researched Mathematics by the spawn date of the Arabs. So I played a new game and tried it the other way around, hopeing the AI would not build the Temple of Kukulkan. I researched Sailing, Mathematics, and then Calendar. I finished researching Calendar right at 600 C.E. I then researched Code of Laws and started building the Temple of Kukulkan in Tuitan. Right after Code of Laws I researched Bronze Working and helped Tuitan by chopping. I would rather not play to 1745... but I understand if I have to.
 

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C'mon folks, it's not like this stuff is a secret, or something that requires special adjudication. Spanish UHV requires no English, French or Dutch cities in the Americas (that's all of them) in 1700AD.

The screenshots show that 1703 is a virtual UHV. They do not show anything about earlier than this and therefore no earlier VV can be claimed without some screenshots or savegames posted.
 
Is this a bug? When the Aztecs came I immediately declared war on them, i.e. before they settled any cities. I destroyed maybe half of their force. They then settled Tenochtitlan. I capture and destroy the city on the next turn. On the turn after that however, I get a message saying that my city Tuitan wants to flip to the rising rebels. I decline and then the Aztecs respawn with five jaguars and three archers. I thought this method stopped rebel soldiers and city flips.
 
Ah, the intricacies of beating the flip system...

No it is not a bug. Every city in the spawn zone flips to the rising civ on the 3rd turn--with the sole exception that if you only have 1 city, that will not flip. (Remember how you always got Frankfurt on the 3rd turn as the Germans?)
What you really needed to do is to move your Tultan troops out, give away the city, then recapture it right away. In that case, you haven't really failed the 3rd UHV since it only counts if you lose a city militarily to another civ.
 
It only counts militarily? I thought if you lost it in general you lose the UHV. My stability has plummeted to Shaking because of the drawn out war with the Aztecs. Oh well, I am at 1500 C.E. only 55 more turns.
 
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