Fellow said:
nothing against you but Zwingli stays a person wich only worked in a limited area , means Zurich so he doesn't represent switzerland! And another question does a Hero really need to die in battle?
Point One: Yes, but Caesar actually had very little reigning time too, Saladin didn't rule all the Arab world, neither did Ashoka or Gandhi (regarding India of course). Ruling all of the civ is in my humble opinion not a decisive reason. What really counts is that the leader is an outstanding, leading person who got something off alone, and my point two (him dying in battle) is only to enforce this.
Despite only having 'governed' Zurich, he was one of very few Swiss, who was egocentrical enough that everyone followed his will (or not!). Since it doesn't make sense to put seven people on a leader-photo of civ (diplomatic screen), because it would get way too crowded, we need such extraordinary men or women.
Dufour somehow was a similar personality while guisan is only known for the reduit, but that could have also been just the military "generals".
Fellow said:
The Reduit... Well we will never know what was it's worth because the time is over. In Spit of this it gave the people some hope , a-n-idea of what to do when they would be atacked. Looking at this point it was just brilliant! While as I said the military value of it will never been prooven.
Well, the only military value would be the blocking of the Alps for Axis-transports which would be ok from a military point of view, but else.... I won't discuss this now as it would just take too long and I'm kinda weary of these disputes, reminds me of all these school lessons
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Fellow said:
Well if we can't find an arrangement about those leaders , what's about Pictet de Rochemont who represented Switzerland in the congress of vienna. An so made Switzerland neutral.
Frankly, I've never heard of him, so I definitely need to look him up. He probably would be a neat choice, other than the fact that he would be the second Russian, erm Romand.
Fellow said:
Or what about Thomas Legler The commandant of the swiss who fought at Beresina? (Wich was really a wonder what they did there!)
Being only a military commander doesn't seem enough for me.
but worth a look.
Fellow said:
another question , I downloaded the Mod ... but how do I use it?
Only this mod:
1. Save all the folders in your firaxis games/civilization 4/mods folder.
2. Open the game and go advanced -> load a mod -> load Swiss Mod
3. Game reloads and you can chose the Swiss to play
Along with other mods:
Either make the game load this mod automatically (via changing the mod=0 line in your civilization4.ini file in Personal files/my games/civilization 4, but I need to test this first and search out the real correct line, the one I mentioned is out of the top of my head
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Or save all the files in the different folders (civilzation names, city names, etc. You'd need to change a lot here, but certainly works).
mfG mitsho
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great job again! I wonder if it'd be too much work to include Zwingli (spiritual, aggressive) as a second leader to represent the other "medieval" version of Switzerland too! 
