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New Civilization: Wales

Discussion in 'Civ4 - New Civilizations' started by Sadistik, Nov 28, 2005.

  1. Sadistik

    Sadistik Warlord

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    Like my other civs, this is still a work in progress, but you can have what I've come up with so far.

    Civ: Wales
    Leaders: King Arthur (J. Caesar) and Owain Glendower (Cyrus)
    Flag: Owain's coat of arms (Lion rampant)
    UU: Welsh Longbowman

    Enjoy.



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  2. rifleman

    rifleman Varangian Guard

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    Nice.

    I wish the lion's heads weren't cut off, though - on the Flag.

    1st post ;)
     
  3. Flying Couch

    Flying Couch A Leaf on the Wind

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    Nice. Have any idea on civ traits yet?
     
  4. rhyswynne

    rhyswynne Chieftain

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    Just out of interest, what cities have you included for wales? I'm very interested in the progression of this mod. Here's a list of all the major Welsh Cities (in Welsh, and their English equivalent).

    Abergavenny
    Y Fenni

    Ammanford
    Rhydaman

    Anglesey
    Môn / Ynys Môn

    Barmouth
    Abermaw

    Barry
    Y Barri

    Bridgend
    Pen-y-bont-ar-Ogwr

    Caernarvon
    Caernarfon

    Cardiff
    Caerdydd

    Cardigan
    Aberteifi

    Carmarthen
    Caerfyrddin

    Colwyn Bay
    Bae Colwyn

    Conway
    Conwy

    Denbigh
    Dinbych

    Fishguard
    Abergwaun

    Flint
    Y Fflint

    Haverfordwest
    Hwlffordd

    Hawarden
    Penarlâg

    Holyhead
    Caergybi

    Lampeter
    Llanbedr Pont Steffan

    Llandovery
    Llanymddyfri

    Milford Haven
    Aberdaugleddau

    Mold
    Yr Wyddgrug

    Neath
    Castell Nedd

    Newport
    Carnewydd-ar-Wisg

    Newtown
    Y Drenewydd

    Pembroke
    Penfro

    Pontypool
    Pont-y-pwl

    Rhondda
    Y Rhondda

    Rhyl
    Y Rhyl

    Ruthin
    Rhuthun

    St Asaph
    Llanelwy

    St Davids
    Tyddewi

    Swansea
    Abertawe

    Tenby
    Dinbych-y-pysgod

    Wrexham
    Wrecsam

    Other major cities with the same name as their English Equivalent: Bangor, Beddgelert, Brecon, Harlech, Llandudno, Llangefni, Merthyr

    Sure there's more, and I've missed a few out, but that's what I can think atm. Hope that can be useful for you!
     
  5. Sadistik

    Sadistik Warlord

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    I only went with 15 cities. I'm not too versed in Cymraeg. ;)

    Caerdydd (Capital)
    Caernarfon
    Bangor
    Y Trallwng
    Caer Guricon
    Caerfyrddin
    Caerffili
    Casnewydd
    Aberteifi
    Llangefni
    Caergybi
    Wrecsam
    Abertawe
    Casllwchwr
    Llanfairpwllgwyngyll
     
  6. ddraig

    ddraig Chieftain

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    How can you Forget Llanelli!?
    Okay I wish I could forget it, but it's my locale so it's hard...but it has 3 times the populaton of Carmarthen.

    What about Aberystwyth and Machynlleth..
    If you have Owen Glyndwr, you must have Machynlleth, because it was where he established his government.

    As for Arthur.....it's debatable. How about Llwellyn ap gruffudd, the last true Prince of Wales?

    A unique unit could be a better Long bow man? The weapon was created by the Welsh and adopted by the Normans/English....and most Norman/English armies recruited and prized Welsh archers.

    Either way, i've been waiting for someone to make this....I tried myself, but failed.

    Great work though.
     
  7. LAnkou

    LAnkou Breizh A Tao

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    I think you missed some a, e, o and U somewhere...:lol:
    maybe you typed it as a Qwerty keyboard and it was an azerty? :lol:

    i'm really impressed by these names, how do you pronounce them?
     
  8. ddraig

    ddraig Chieftain

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    Often with great difficulty if you don't grow up with it or speak the language.
    You do get hilarious amounts of fun trying to teach your English friends to pronounce them...In a non-cruel way of course.:lol:
     
  9. Sadistik

    Sadistik Warlord

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    The UU is a better Longbowman.
     
  10. Sadistik

    Sadistik Warlord

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    OK, you asked for it.

    "Llanfairpwllgwyngyll" isn't the real name of the town.

    It's actually "Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch". (Without the space. For some reason the forums made that.))

    I just didn't want to torture anyone who intended to play Wales by forcing them to hit backspace thirty times.
     
  11. rhyswynne

    rhyswynne Chieftain

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    And it is known as "Llanfairpwllgwyngyll" (or "Llanfair P. G."), it's pronounced:-

    (all "ch"'s are pronounced as in "Loch" as opposed to as in 'chair')

    Lan-fire-pool-gwin-gych-gor-gare-ooch-chwin-drob-wych-chlan-tuh-silly-oh-gor-gor-gorch.

    Best I can do I'm afraid. Not a phonetics expert!
     
  12. LAnkou

    LAnkou Breizh A Tao

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    that's truly,impressive....
    i can imagine it is done that way so english can't know where they are and so they lose themselves in wales. Then the governement decide that wales is a forbidden land and no english can enter.....
     
  13. rhyswynne

    rhyswynne Chieftain

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    It means in English "St Mary's church in the hollow of the white hazel near a rapid whirlpool and the church of St Tysilio near the red cave". There were towns called "Llandysiliogogoch", and "Llanfairpwllgwyngyll" ("Church of St Tysilio near the Red Cave" and "St Mary's church in the hollow of the white hazel") close to each other in Victorian Times. When the Industrial revolution occurred they didn't want to put a station in both so they put a station between them (near a rapid whirlpool: "Chwyndrobwyll"), and - as it was near a station - the town grew up, so much so that the original two towns are now suburbs of Llanfair PG.

    It's not the biggest named town in Wales, with a town on the Fairbourne Railway known as Gorsafawddacha'idraigodanheddogleddollônpenrhynareurdraethceredigion.
     
  14. LAnkou

    LAnkou Breizh A Tao

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    just imagine the guy who fill an application form, and mispell the city name at the end of it....
     
  15. Sadistik

    Sadistik Warlord

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    Job app?

    I thought all Welshies were shepherds... Or, at least, they're very fond of shepe.
     
  16. ddraig

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    More sheep in England...and statistics show that there are more 'relations' across the border. However, best not turn this into a Native V Anglo Saxon debate:lol:
     
  17. Sadistik

    Sadistik Warlord

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    Fear not. I'm not one to defend the Anglo-Saxon-Jutes. It's bad enough I was forced by the sword to speak their heathen tongue. ;)
     
  18. rhyswynne

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    Hugely off topic, but have you got an article with those statistics on? I REALLY want to drop the whole "Sheep Lover" (not the real word, but there could be kids here) monniker associated with my English mates :)
     
  19. ddraig

    ddraig Chieftain

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    Sorry was a bit off topic...but just replying to the one above.

    Are there any stats.....to be honest i'd be too afraid to search the net for something like that...., just in case I get directed to a 'specialist' area.

    If you're English mates wind you up with those jokes, just say it's why it tastes so good!!!

    Or tell them that the breed of sheep that currently are so abundant in Wales and the Uk as a whole, were imported here by their Norman ancestors, specifically from Burgandy.....and then suggest that perhaps the joke is just an historic way of them passing the buck.........:eek: :lol:

    Swiftly moving on though........ I've been playing around with this civ, and it's good. I like how the place names are in their Welsh form.
    I'm looking forward to a time when we can have custom city graphics, it wood be great to see a city develop into hill fort etc...
     
  20. Tactician Zhao

    Tactician Zhao Lord Strategist

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    how did you get beyond the 15 character limit?
     

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