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New Civs - Confirmed Details

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by CivOasis, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. CivOasis

    CivOasis Ahuizotl

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    Well, since it is perhaps the most key component of the game (we are playing Civilization, after all), let's compile a list of what we know about the new civs.
    For interest reasons, we'll include City-States, as well.

    Note that this is not a speculation thread. Don't make a guess in here, unless you have some evidence to back it up. If you want to guess/predict a new civ, do so here.
    Unique abilities alone may be discussed here.

    Now, for details:

    Byzantium:
    UU: Dromon
    UC2:
    UA: Gives the Byzantines an extra Belief slot.
    Leader: Theodora
    Capital: Constantinople

    Carthage:
    UU: Quinquireme
    UC2: African Forest Elephant (Strength 14)
    UA: Phoenician Heritage (Free harbors, units can cross mountains)
    Leader: Dido
    Capital: Carthage


    Celts:
    UU: Pictish Warrior (Strength 11, Movement 2)
    UC2:
    UA: The Celts have a religion-based bonus when settled against forests.
    Leader: Boudica
    Capital: Edinburgh

    Maya:
    UU: Atlatl
    UC2:
    UA: Unknown, but somehow involves calendars.
    Leader: Pacal
    Capital:

    The Netherlands:
    UU: Sea Beggar, a melee ship that steals gold.
    UC2: Polder - UI that can increase land (apparently) and yields a luxury resource, Tulips
    UA: East India Company - luxuries are not lost when traded
    Leader: William of Orange
    Capital: Amsterdam

    The Huns
    UU: Horse Archer
    UC2: Battering Ram
    UA: Scourge of God (Raze cities twice as fast, start with Animal Husbandry, +1 production from pastures)
    Leader: Attila
    Capital: Attila's Court
    Note: All other Hunnic cities are drawn from the bottom of other civ's lists.

    Ethiopia
    UU: Mehal Safari (recieves bonuses for fighting closer to capital)
    UC2:
    UA: Unkown name, but gives bonus to fighting larger nations
    Leader: Haile Selassie
    Capital: Addis Ababa

    Austria
    UU:
    UC2:
    UA: Diplomatic Marriage, but allows Austria to marry into and "inherit" City-States peacefully.
    Leader: Maria Theresa
    Capital:

    Civ9: Sweden
    UU: Carolinean
    UC2: Hakkepillita
    UA: Noble Prize
    Leader: Gustavus Adolphus
    Capital:

    City-States:
    Mercantile: Antwerp, Marrakech, Tyre (changed from Militaristic), Columbo
    Religious: Jerusalem, The Vatican
    Cultural: Milan
    Unknown: Lisbon, Zanzibar

    Any confirmed details, please post with links/evidence below. Everything here was either detailed in the 2K release, images, or translated from another Civ site.
     
  2. Louis XXIV

    Louis XXIV Le Roi Soleil

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    Wooh, thanks for the plug :D

    Do you want confirmed City-States in this thread too? Might allow us to give more useful information :)
     
  3. CivOasis

    CivOasis Ahuizotl

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    Yeah, sounds like a great idea!
    Name and type would be ideal, I think. Lisbon and Anhalt are confirmed, but what kind?
     
  4. Louis XXIV

    Louis XXIV Le Roi Soleil

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    Antwerp is confirmed. The type is not 100% certain, but it's the same symbol as the trade route symbol. This suggests Mercantile. Source is the fourth pic from the Screenshot thread (about espionage).
     
  5. CivOasis

    CivOasis Ahuizotl

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    Oh, wait, did I mistake Anhalt for Antwerp? One second.
     
  6. Camikaze

    Camikaze Administrator Administrator

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    We know the following about the Dutch from here:
     
  7. CivOasis

    CivOasis Ahuizotl

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    Thanks for the info!
     
  8. Haig

    Haig Chieftain

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    Celts get religious Faith points from forests

    Byzantium gets an additional sixth Bonus Belief
     
  9. Pouakai

    Pouakai It belongs in a museum. Moderator

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    Hate to be nit-picky, but it's Capital, not Capitol. Also, from the screenshots it appears that the only two cities in the screenshoted game from the Celts are Dublin and Cardiff, yet neither of them have the capital icon.
     
  10. Louis XXIV

    Louis XXIV Le Roi Soleil

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    We can speculate in the other thread, but it was Bibracte in Civ4.
     
  11. MARDUK80

    MARDUK80 Chieftain

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    I understood this a little bit differently. That the Dutch's one uniques is a ability to terraform - turn water tiles into land tiles. So they can build land bridges to coastal islands and to other continents. Or perhaps in city screen UB gives chance to select water tiles and then transform them to land tiles(?).

    I mean, doesn't every Civ have ablity to use worker unit to convert marshes to better terrain? Am I wrong with this one? :)
     
  12. anandus

    anandus Errorist

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    You're not wrong, but nowhere has been said that water tiles would be able to be converted to land tiles.
    Wetlands will be able to be converted to 'more fertile' grounds. What this exactly means isn't clear. It could be that marshes will be converted to some sort of superfarm, or it could be there's another new kind of tile, a coastal marsh as wetlands.
     
  13. Captain Fargle

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    Maybe they've added fens and that's what the Dutch can covert?
     
  14. Montov

    Montov Chieftain

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    As a native Dutch speaker, I can say your interpretation is not correct.
    "Moeraslanden" are 'swamp fields', thus Marsh in civ. But of course, the Dutch article could be misinterpreting.
    I'm trying to come up with some yields to make it a cool improvement, like 6 gold, or 1 food, 1 hammer and 2 gold. There isn't much marsh on most maps, so the yields must be really good to have some sort of impact.
     
  15. Rex_Mundi

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    Din't the Dutch article say that the unique ship could steal gold from costal cities and convert enemy ships.
    Kind of like the privateer of civ 3 + civ 4?

    I only read the google translated version, so I can't be sure.
     
  16. anandus

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    @Rex: Yes.
     
  17. Camikaze

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    Unless the Dutch have a start bias near marshes.
     
  18. Willowmound

    Willowmound Wordbug

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    Yup, a capitol is only a building. A capital is a city.
     
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    I've made a slightly smoother, more complete translation than that ugly google translation for what is written about the Dutch; nothing new, but this should read a little easier:
    Both 'units' and 'buildings' are written as plural in the Dutch text. Can't be true, I suppose, but that's how it's written here.
     
  20. mitsho

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    So any guesses for Religious City states? My try:

    Jerusalem (as long as Israel is not a civ), Qufu (Home of Confucianism - it's not in the chinese city list, right?), Avignon (Home of several popes, and Rome is kinda taken...), Lhasa (this change is kinda easily explained), Pataliputra/Patna (Indian City, now in Ruins, but important center of Buddhism), Amritsar (where the main temple of the Sikh is located), Antioch (the closest to an important christian city I could find not found in any city list), Angkor Wat (the Khmer are not in, right? it's a wonder, but so is Macchu Picchu...), Najaf/Kerbala (Medina and Mecca are taken, so the next best thing is a Shia religious center?), Itsukushima (Famous Shinto Shrine). Would Sheba be a possibility as well?

    What are holy places for Zoroastrianism, Mithraism or the "Mesoamerican" one?
     

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