New Civs / Leaders / Crash to Desktop II

Mattygerst · Feb 17, 2015

Hi everyone,

Recently I have updated my mod MMod, which is a modmod of KMod, found here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=482015

#1: This is the most up-to-date 'official' MMod (before I have made any new civs / leaderheads changes): http://www.atomicgamer.com/files/109080/mmod-k-v1-44b

Obviously, MMod = KMod + BAT + Varietas Delectas (found here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=237192 ) + GEM Map (optional) + MasteryVictory (optional)

#2: This is the most recent 'unofficial' update for MMod: https://drive.google.com/uc?id=0B6VuHphw5zHzc0w1bC1UOHB3NU0&export=download in which I attempted to add the civs and leaders from Civ Gold, found here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7742

Here is the issue I am having. When following the directions for adding a civ on this forum, it calls to use artstyles from the civ you are downloading (in this case from Civ Gold). However, Varietas Delectat (which MMod uses) has its own Global Types such as:

<ArtStyleTypes>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_AFRICA</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_ANGLO_AMERICA</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_ARABIA</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_ASIA</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_BARBARIAN</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_CRESCENT</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_EGYPT</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_EUROPE</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_GRECO_ROMAN</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_INDIA</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_IBERIA</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_JAPAN</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_MESO_AMERICA</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_MONGOLIA</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_NATIVE_AMERICA</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_NORSE</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_RUSSIA</ArtStyleType>
<ArtStyleType>ARTSTYLE_SOUTH_AMERICA</ArtStyleType>
etc.

Civ Gold does not use these artstyles, which cause the game to eventually crash.

How can I change the new civs / leaders to have the correct artstyles that are in the MMod created with the Varietas Delectat artstyles?

I'm not very good at this (obviously), and could really use some help...

Please let me know if what I'm saying does not make sense.

Matt

Afforess · Feb 17, 2015

Have you added the GlobalTypes, and the new art styles that are in XML/Civilizations/Civ4UnitArtStyleTypeInfos.xml? That is the file that specifies art styles for civilizations. Check out the file in BTS if you do not have one in your mod.

Mattygerst · Feb 18, 2015

To Afforess:
Yes, MMod (the working version) has the GlobalTypes from Varietas Delectat within it. The 'original' MMod is working and has worked perfectly for 2+ years. It is the new version in which I attempted to add leaders that I have messed it up. I think I bit off more than I could chew trying to merge my mod with Civ Gold because Civ Gold does not have the same GlobalTypes as MMod uses.

To the CivFanatics Community:
I think what I am going to do now is to just simply explain what I'm doing, and maybe someone can guide me to the best way of doing this:

The 'original' MMod (which works perfectly) is found here: http://www.atomicgamer.com/files/109080/mmod-k-v1-44b

MMod contains:
*KMod v1.44b: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=407049
*Varietas Delectat v9.2: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=237192 (MMod uses the graphics only...does not use any of the new civs/leaders)
*GEM: http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=296 (blank GEM map only, no scenarios)
*BAT
*Mastery Victory

These mods have been merged together to form MMod (completed in December 2012) and has been stable and perfect ever since.

Recently I tried to merge civs/leaders from Civ Gold. However, I have decided this is likely not optimal bc Varietas Delectat and Civ Gold use different GlobalTypes.

What I would like to do, instead, is explain what I am trying to do:

I am simply trying to add new civs and leaders, essentially based on the current ones that are in MMod (same as the ones in vanilla Civ).

For example, I would like to take, say:
America and create a new derivative civ called: United States (keeping America, while also adding United States)
Roosevelt and create a new derivative leader named: John F Kennedy (keeping Roosevelt, while also adding John F Kennedy)
I don't care to add any new units or anything like that.
For the art for the leaderhead, I would just like to take a static image from the internet, such as: http://www.seekingenlightenment.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/president-kennedy.jpg and convert to .dds and have this be the art for the leaderhead.

The end goal will be to create several new leaders / civs and then build scenarios using MMod's GEM map for the entire community to use.

The problem is...the more I read on the modding tutorials, the more lost I get.

This doesn't seem like it should be too hard. Can someone give me some direction? Once I create just one....I should be able to create tons ...

Give a man a fish, feed him for a day ... teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime ; )

If what I have said does not make sense, please let me know and I will further attempt to clarify... I'm desperately seeking advice : /

Afforess · Feb 18, 2015

You didn't comment on the art style XML. You need Civ Gold's art styles to run their new content. Make sure you merge Civ4UnitArtStyleTypeInfos.xml

Mattygerst · Feb 18, 2015

To the CivFanatics Community:
I think what I am going to do now is to just simply explain what I'm doing, and maybe someone can guide me to the best way of doing this:

The 'original' MMod (which works perfectly) is found here: http://www.atomicgamer.com/files/109080/mmod-k-v1-44b

MMod contains:
*KMod v1.44b: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=407049
*Varietas Delectat v9.2: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=237192 (MMod uses the graphics only...does not use any of the new civs/leaders)
*GEM: http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=296 (blank GEM map only, no scenarios)
*BAT
*Mastery Victory

These mods have been merged together to form MMod (completed in December 2012) and has been stable and perfect ever since.

Recently I tried to merge civs/leaders from Civ Gold. However, I have decided this is likely not optimal bc Varietas Delectat and Civ Gold use different GlobalTypes. Therefore I have abandoned this idea.

What I would like to do, instead, is explain what I am trying to do:

I am simply trying to add new civs and leaders, essentially based on the current ones that are in MMod (same as the ones in vanilla Civ).

For example, I would like to take, say:
America and create a new derivative civ called: United States (keeping America, while also adding United States)
Roosevelt and create a new derivative leader named: John F Kennedy (keeping Roosevelt, while also adding John F Kennedy)
I don't care to add any new units or anything like that.
For the art for the leaderhead, I would just like to take a static image from the internet, such as: http://www.seekingenlightenment.net/...nt-kennedy.jpg and convert to .dds and have this be the art for the leaderhead.

The end goal will be to create several new leaders / civs and then build scenarios using MMod's GEM map for the entire community to use.

The problem is...the more I read on the modding tutorials, the more lost I get.

This doesn't seem like it should be too hard. Can someone give me some direction? Once I create just one....I should be able to create tons ...

Give a man a fish, feed him for a day ... teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime ; )

If what I have said does not make sense, please let me know and I will further attempt to clarify... I'm desperately seeking advice : /

Afforess · Feb 18, 2015

IMHO, you gave up on GlobalTypes too quickly, creating static leaderheads from scratch is probably even more work than merging Civ Gold correctly.

Mattygerst · Feb 18, 2015

It is better for my mod to create static leaderheads from scratch if someone can help me learn to do it properly. The reason it is better is because I plan on making several scenarios based on the GEM map while also having KMod's AI along with Sevo's Mastery Victory. The reason the mod was built was for this scenario construction. I was combining Civ Gold only because it seemed like a fast and easy way to partially accomplish what I want to do. However, adding the leaders from scratch is more ideal in this case. I'm willing to put in a lot of work if someone can walk me thru the steps... I just need to be walked thru once so I have a blueprint to follow for the rest...

Thank you,
Matt

platyping · Feb 18, 2015

I never had problems adding new leaders to my own mod, but I don't use new artstyles.

Add leader
1) Add the leader info in CIV4LeaderHeadInfos
2) Add the leader to a Civ in CIV4CivilizationInfos
3) Add Diplomacy texts in CIV4DiplomacyInfos
4) Define the leader art in CIV4ArtDefines_Leaderhead
5) Add Text in Text Folder
6) Place Artwork in where it is defined. (Button + Portrait)

Add Civ
1) Add to CIV4CivilizationInfos
2) Define art in CIV4ArtDefines_Civilization
3) Place Artwork in where it is defined. (Flag + Button)
4) Add Text to Text folders

That's about it for adding to default BTS. You should probably try adding some to BTS to familiarize before adding to your mod, so you will know if the problem lies with the downloaded leaders, or incompatibility with your mod.

Mattygerst · Feb 18, 2015

platyping said:
I never had problems adding new leaders to my own mod, but I don't use new artstyles.

Add leader
1) Add the leader info in CIV4LeaderHeadInfos
2) Add the leader to a Civ in CIV4CivilizationInfos
3) Add Diplomacy texts in CIV4DiplomacyInfos
4) Define the leader art in CIV4ArtDefines_Leaderhead
5) Add Text in Text Folder
6) Place Artwork in where it is defined. (Button + Portrait)

Add Civ
1) Add to CIV4CivilizationInfos
2) Define art in CIV4ArtDefines_Civilization
3) Place Artwork in where it is defined. (Flag + Button)
4) Add Text to Text folders

That's about it for adding to default BTS. You should probably try adding some to BTS to familiarize before adding to your mod, so you will know if the problem lies with the downloaded leaders, or incompatibility with your mod.

Hi platyping,

Thank you for your response to my question about adding civilizations and leaders to my mod.

The issue I'm having with your comment seems to be the same one I'm having with all the other tutorials. You reference folders which don't seem to exist in my mod...which I don't understand?...

For example, can you please download my mod and then check the directories to tell me where, specifically, I need to go to in order to follow your steps, please?

http://www.atomicgamer.com/files/109080/mmod-k-v1-44b

Thank you for your help, it is very much appreciated.

Matt

Mattygerst · Feb 18, 2015

Or does anyone else have suggestions with regard to the above posts (#9)?

platyping · Feb 18, 2015

Sid Meier's Civilization 4/Beyond the Sword/Assets/XML/Civilizations
1) CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml
2) CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml

Sid Meier's Civilization 4/Beyond the Sword/Assets/XML/GameInfo
1) CIV4DiplomacyInfos.xml

Sid Meier's Civilization 4/Beyond the Sword/Assets/XML/Art
1) CIV4ArtDefines_Civilization.xml
2) CIV4ArtDefines_Leaderhead.xml

Sid Meier's Civilization 4/Beyond the Sword/Assets/XML/Text
Any text file.

If your mod does not have the corresponding Assets/XML/XXX folder, it means K-mod did not modify those files, thus they are still using the default BTS files. Thus, all you need to do is go to the above BTS folders, copy the respective XML files over to the corresponding locations in your mod.

So CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml will go into Sid Meier's Civilization 4/Beyond the Sword/Mods/M-Mod/Assets/XML/Civilizations folder. If the folder does not exist in your mod, just create it and place the file there.

Mattygerst · Feb 18, 2015

platyping said:
Sid Meier's Civilization 4/Beyond the Sword/Assets/XML/Civilizations
1) CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml
2) CIV4LeaderHeadInfos.xml

Sid Meier's Civilization 4/Beyond the Sword/Assets/XML/GameInfo
1) CIV4DiplomacyInfos.xml

Sid Meier's Civilization 4/Beyond the Sword/Assets/XML/Art
1) CIV4ArtDefines_Civilization.xml
2) CIV4ArtDefines_Leaderhead.xml

Sid Meier's Civilization 4/Beyond the Sword/Assets/XML/Text
Any text file.

If your mod does not have the corresponding Assets/XML/XXX folder, it means K-mod did not modify those files, thus they are still using the default BTS files. Thus, all you need to do is go to the above BTS folders, copy the respective XML files over to the corresponding locations in your mod.

So CIV4CivilizationInfos.xml will go into Sid Meier's Civilization 4/Beyond the Sword/Mods/M-Mod/Assets/XML/Civilizations folder. If the folder does not exist in your mod, just create it and place the file there.

I am absolutely thrilled with this answer. Very much appreciated.

Mattygerst · Feb 22, 2015

*NOTE*
Due to length, there will be a succession of posts...

This weekend I spent time planning the WWII scenario for MMod. It includes 48 civilizations, of which I would like to create 48 new civilizations and 48 new leaders (I don't wish to use any of the current BTS civs/leaders).

In case you are curious, here is my civ list for the scenario:

Spoiler :

Obviously, creating 48 new civs/leaders is ambitious; however, MMod has been a 3 year project which currently is extremely stable. And I plan on spending as much time as necessary in order to do this correctly.

At this time, I'd like to use an example of what I'm planning on doing and having any pitfalls/errors pointed out by those who are much better at this than I am (but, hopefully I will become an expert once I've added these new civs/leaders).

For this practice, I will use a simple example of what I am wanting to accomplish:

Vanilla Civ has the "American Empire" with leaders: Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt. I would like to essentially 'copy' this civ and create a new derivative called: "USA" with the leader also called "Franklin Roosevelt"

Vanilla Civ: American Empire
New Civ: USA
Vanilla Leader: Franklin Roosevelt
New Leader: FDR

PART #1: Add Civilization

STEP #1:
Add Civ to: Assets/XML/Civilizations/CivilizationInfos
Vanilla Civ: America

Spoiler :

New Civ: USA (changes in BOLD)

Spoiler :

You will notice that these were not changed:
-Civilopedia
-ArtDefineTag
-CivilizationSelectionSound
-CivilizationActionSound

Is it ok to use these from the original vanilla civ? I don't imagine I must change these? But...I'm not sure?

STEP #2:
Define Art in: Assets/XML/Art/Civ4ArtDefines_Civilization

Vanilla Civ: America

Spoiler :

New Civ: USA
Can I just copy and re-use the above while only chaning the civ name...such as...

Spoiler :

Step #3:
Place Artwork in where it is defined (Flag + Button)

It seems this should be able to be skipped if I can work Step #2 as I describe above.

Step #4:
Add Text to Text Folders: Assets/XML/Text

...I don't see any texts that require updating for the Civilization being added? Am I wrong?

*Continued in Next Post*

Mattygerst · Feb 22, 2015

PART #2: Add Leader
Step #1:
Add leader to Civ4LeaderHeadInfos (Assets/XML/Civilizations/Civ4LeadHeadInfos)
Vanilla Leader: Franklin_Roosevelt

Spoiler :

*Continued in Next Post*

Mattygerst · Feb 22, 2015

New Leader: FDR

Spoiler :

Notice that I did not change the civilopedia. I assume that, since this leads to FRANKLIN_ROOSEVELT, that this should be fine. Also notice that I did not change the DiploMusicPeaceEra, I also assume this can be left as is since it will just refer to the original leaderhead that was copied?

STEP #2:
Add leader to Civ (USA) in Civ4CivilizationInfos (Assets/XML/Civilizations/Civ4Civilization Infos)
-This has already been completed when I created the new civ in Part #1.

STEP #3:
Add Diplomacy texts in Civ4DiplomacyInfos (Assets/XML/GameInfo/Civ4DiplomacyInfos)
-This part I am totally lost on? I have no idea what to do with these with regard to my new leader 'FDR'?...

STEP #4:
Define leader in Civ4ArtDefines_Leaderhead (Assets/XML/Art/Civ4ArtDefines_Leaderhead)

Vanilla Civ: Franklin Roosevelt

Spoiler :

I am also not sure what all of this does. For example, what is the button? What is the NIF? What is the KFM? What is the NoShaderNIF? BackgroundKFM? Essentially, I am not looking to create a 'mesh leaderhead.' I want to, instead, simply use a static picture for my leaderhead art. For example, I'd like to use this picture as my leader's picture: http://www.eventresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/US-Flag1.jpg .

I already have a BMP to DDS converter. So, I would take the picture from that link, convert it from JPG to BMP, re-size it to the correct proportions, and then convert the BMP to DDS. It is this picture that I want to use as my LeaderHead picture. How does this fit into the: Button, NIF, KFM, NoShaderNIF, BackgroundKFM?

STEP #5:
Add text to text folders (Assets/XML/Text)
-Self explanatory

STEP #6:
Place artwork in where it is defined (Button + Portrait)
-To do this, I likely need to understand Step #4 above better.

Thank you very much for taking the time to read through my post. I attempted to organize it properly in order to convey the seriousness that I am taking with this project. MMod has taken a LOT of time to get to the point where it is. And now I am ready to take on this, essentially, final step

Mattygerst · Feb 22, 2015

*Note:

Please Refer to Post #13-15 to see the point of the above post : )

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