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[BNW] NEW Community Challenge Game series - Game 2 - Greece (Demigod)

Discussion in 'Civ5 - Strategy & Tips' started by consentient, Dec 28, 2017.

  1. consentient

    consentient Domination!

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    Back in the day, there was a fair group of people on here that all used to play challenge series, where we'd all play the same map and share our playthroughs. The first ones were called Deity Challenge Line-up (DCL) and Immortal Challenge Line-up (ICL). Later there was one called the Community Deity Game (CDG).

    Those who know, know. Those who don't, come and play this new shared game with us anyway!


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    I probably won't post any maps where a Domination victory isn't possible, because that is generally how I like to roll....and I won't be doing maps for all the civs, only the most interesting ones...(so no Iroquois or Carthage most likely!)

    But I will try (as I always have) to provide fun and interesting maps that suit all playstyles.

    I will rotate the difficulty from Immortal, to Demigod (Deity with a couple of bonuses) and Deity.

    Maps will be posted on a roughly fortnightly basis.

    I will make regular use of different mods, that in my opinion objectively improve the game.

    Provisional Schedule: -

    Spoiler :
    Game 2 - Greece (Demigod)
    Game 3 - Babylon (Deity)
    Game 4 - Prussia (Immortal)
    Game 5 - America (Demigod)
    Game 6 - Persia (Deity)
    ...and so on...


    - - -

    So welcome to Game 2:

    You play as Greece, on a Hellblazer Pangaea map, on 'Demigod'.

    There are no suggested victory conditions, so play any way you want.

    Have fun!

    - - -

    Starting Location:
    Spoiler :


    This map is a Deity map but with benefits to the human player. I call this 'Demigod', since it represents a kind of difficulty between Immortal and Deity. Many of us on these boards view this as the "sweet spot" for challenge vs. fun, because sometimes Deity can be a slog and Immortal becomes too easy for some players.

    So...we have Alex, master of the City States...however there are 7 other civs that stand in his way
    Spoiler civ-specific info :
    and two of them in particular can be VERY problematic in terms of citystates
    Spoiler very-civ-specific info :
    (Austria and Venice)
    . Can you make best use of these alliances and triumph over your foes?

    You will have to install the Hellblazer Map Pack and the following Mods to play this challenge:-

    - Historical Religions complete
    - Maps: Improved CS Luxuries
    - NaturalWonders - Equality
    - DLL - Various Mod Components
    - Policy - Reveal Capitals
    - Religion - Fixed Pantheons
    - Religion - Fixed Prophets
    - Global - Capture Great People
    - Global - City States No Allied Skirmishes
    - Global - Grateful Settlers
    - Global - Separate GP Counters
    - Goody Huts - No Automapping

    Most of these mods just 'fix' the game in my opinion by putting right things that are clearly oversights of the developers. For you to have alliances with 2 CS and they wage war on each other is just clearly silly, for example. And since this is Alex, I wanted the CS alliances to be as valuable as possible so you can make the most of the UA.

    I hope you all enjoy!

    I will put the save file and screenshot of starting location here in around 24 hours. If you need any specific help installing the mods, let me know and I'll do what I can.
     

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    Last edited: Jan 1, 2018
  2. mbbcam

    mbbcam Chieftain

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    I probably won't be able to try this, I'm afraid, as I'm on Mac, and my BootCamp partition seems to have got corrupted recently. I will have to try and reinstall it. Moreover, I think this game would probably just be too difficult for me at the moment. I may have another go at the first game and see if I can do a bit better. But I agree that some of the Mods are things that really ought to have been in the base game.
     
  3. consentient

    consentient Domination!

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    If you can get Windows working, I'd recommend trying this map. There is a lot of potential for very strong play in the early game here. It's a stronger map than the Spain one, if anything. The Deity AI might still be a struggle in the midgame but I'd say that all early game practice is useful :)
     
  4. mbbcam

    mbbcam Chieftain

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    OK, thanks for that. I'll see if I can find all the bits to get it reinstalled.
     
  5. penguin74

    penguin74 Chieftain

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    Got as far as turn 53 but when I loaded the save today the file was corrupted and crashed the game. I deleted and redownloaded figuring I'd start over but it still happens. Is something wrong with the save file?
     
  6. beetle

    beetle Chieftain

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    That’s too bad, some of these mods require DLL and so are not Mac compatible, so I doubt that I will be able to play this. I am not interested in Boot Camp, but I recently got Wine to run SMAC, so I might try that.
     
  7. BlackWizard

    BlackWizard Chieftain

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    I didnt read description of all mods but iron is visible on starting location screenshot?
     
  8. claudiupb

    claudiupb Chieftain

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    Spoiler :

    You already have bronze working and a hoplite to begin with. I got an unit upgrade to pikeman and immediately proceeded to sack
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    Rome
    Unfortunately that deterred my focus from actually extending and by mid game I was in trouble so I might replay from 0.
     
  9. claudiupb

    claudiupb Chieftain

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    I have to ask a question about this game. Potentially mega spoiler ahead.
    @consentient
    Spoiler :

    Is this save somehow scripted so that everyone declares war on you on year 300? This happened in my game and it was rather unexpected, I was in good relation with some of the AI but all of a sudden 5 DOWs in the same turn. And the weird part is that they were at war among themselves, either this is scripted which is brilliant or the mods are messing up the diplomacy.
     
  10. claudiupb

    claudiupb Chieftain

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    When you continue a save, you have go through the mods menu again and load the game there with all the original mods selected. Apparently for some mods this is not done automatically, and if you load directly it will crash. Just happened to me because I forgot to go through the mods menu but the next time I did this and it worked.
     
  11. beetle

    beetle Chieftain

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    @consentient, that is a thoughtfully selected list of mods, thanks for that, but no good for anyone not running Windows.
     
  12. penguin74

    penguin74 Chieftain

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    That did it. Thanks. Never used mods before so had no idea.
     
  13. raider980

    raider980 Chieftain

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    Are these mods on Steam so I can just Subscribe? I looked for Hellblazers but don't see it. I've been playing GotM and would like to play these since they are are all higher level.
     
  14. mbbcam

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  15. Nybelung

    Nybelung Chieftain

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    There's too much mods for my taste. :)
    I'll go back and replay some of the old challenges.
     
  16. penguin74

    penguin74 Chieftain

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    Diplo V Turn 270

    Spoiler :
    Took me 3 turns 4 if you count the save I screwed up, so map knowledge helped a lot. Never played this difficulty or with mods before.

    Tried Liberty first, had 5 cities up, about to found a 6th when Rome swarmed me. 2nd time through tried to open Tradition and then go Honor thinking I'd need it to stop Ceaser. It worked, but not enough to stop Washington from coming up the south while my troops were away.

    Finally went for a pretty generic 4 city Tradition. Made sure to have enough troops to hold of Rome when they came, but luckily those 2 cities near him were very defensible. America attacked once, but never went after me, just tried to take city states and ended up losing Los Angeles to one of them. Maria never married a C/S as I tried to focus on stealing her alliances, and Venice was taken out by the Ottomans so they never really messed with me. Got a bit lucky when Rome attacked late with a navy I didn't plan for and would have taken Sparta if they didn't accept peace for some reason. Passed world religion and ideology and won on the 1st vote.

     
  17. mbbcam

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    An update for Mac users: I tried this game using Crossover, but it crashes. I suspect the culprit is Historical Religions, as I was able to start another game with all the mods apart from that one (though I only played a few turns just to experiment). I haven't got around to reinstating my Boot Camp partition as I suspect it will be a long job.
     

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