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New IGN info (May 23, 2007)

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by mrbee, May 23, 2007.

  1. Padraig

    Padraig Father of future Civver

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    I should think he would be organized since he overhauled the Ottoman legal system, abhored corruption and was known as "the lawgiver"...don't know what the other would be.

    Since they want to extent the age of the musket in BTS, Jannisaries should be a better unit too...Rifling seems to come too quick.
     
  2. Titus001

    Titus001 Warlord

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    lol hey old men!!!
     
  3. Phoenix1595

    Phoenix1595 Lord of the Two Lands

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    The screenshots here were fantastic-- finally, some in-game shots that really show innovation in the xpack.

    I am thrilled with the idea of colonies and branching civs. I agree with an earlier poster-- civil wars are finally back in, and I think this is really going to make this game more exciting. Plus, it will help Terra and archipelago maps... what's the point in establishing a city a continent away when a "colony" could do (a la civ3)? I love navies (and they played a HUGE role in modern history), so I hope BtS injects them with enough content to bring them back from Davy Jone's Locker.

    Still don't get the Ottomans receiving another leader... of course, I never play Ottomans, so what do I know? Just thought of other civs that could use another one perhaps a little more. Oh well.

    I also noticed that in one of the screenshots, we see the Babylonian UU-- an archer of some sort. No surprise, but just thought I'd mention it.

    All in all, a good preview article.
     
  4. GrandSultan

    GrandSultan Full Time Hypocrite

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    I think I have to agree that Suleiman has to be Organized. Industrious would be my second pick for him since he really revitalized Istanbul (and the Suleymaniye Mosque is a real wonder). However, dosn't that step on Bismarks toes? Do we think we are entering the realm of overlapping traits now?

    Edit: Why so much doubt about a second Ottoman leader? The Ottoman had some very capable leaders in their history, Suleiman and Mehmed II being just the tip of the iceberg.

    Is it just me, or do the clubmen/daggermen right below the babylonian archers look like they could be maccabbees? Maybe people lwill be getting Israel afterall.
     
  5. Gaius Octavius

    Gaius Octavius Deity

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    Bismark is expansive/industrious, like Lincoln in Civ 3.

    Hope you don't mean me. :p I'm nowhere near that age.
     
  6. Horizons

    Horizons Needing fed again!

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    Visible trade routes, spreading missionaries and now spreading corporations are all, among many other subtle changes made throughout the whole Civ4 design process, silent tributes to the innovations of CALL TO POWER. The old conservative Civ purists have been defeated - and true innovation has been introduced to Sid Meier's series. This is awesome news. :)

    I had always wanted more ways to wage unconventional and economic warfare in late-game Civ and my prayers have been answered.


    In conclusion, we see Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword as the ultimate Civilization game. It adds such a quantity of killer new features to the epic game that it really should have been called Civilization 4.5. Our guess is that this didn't happen because you can't express 4.5 in roman numerals.


    Firaxis have really taken on board almost all of the concerns of the Civ community. It is really quite unprecedented. I almost feel part of the Civ-making process, Firaxis have taken to heart so many of all our demands for the series.

    Civ has become a true labour of love for thousands of people.

    This is great news.

    :)
     
  7. Horizons

    Horizons Needing fed again!

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    PS what's up with this 'Taste Eve' advertisement stuff on the IGN (and other) sites? Women having dark objects placed into their mouths. I wish I could turn stuff like that off, as I am a firm believer in segregating my porn surfing from my Civ surfing. :)
     
  8. Horizons

    Horizons Needing fed again!

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  9. Thunderfall

    Thunderfall Administrator Administrator Moderator

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    Nice article with some cool screenies! :thumbsup:

    Anyone has the time to summarize the new info for me so I can include it in the main page news post? :)
     
  10. civzombie

    civzombie Prince

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    "Plus, it will help Terra and archipelago maps... what's the point in establishing a city a continent away when a "colony" could do (a la civ3)? "

    I interpret that part of the article as meaning the part of the civilization that breaks off to form a new civ is analagous to a the common historical occurance of colonies rebelling to form a new nation. I don't interpret the article to mean that civ3 colonies are back.
     
  11. Gaius Octavius

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    I notice it said spies can steal gold... interesting... especially considering you used to have to spend gold to undertake spy missions before. Either this means that's gone, or else you can now steal the money necessary to fund further missions. :D (Unlikely)
     
  12. Martinus

    Martinus Emperor

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    This looks wonderful. :D

    I especially love the feature of being able to use spies to force other leaders to change religions and civics. I hope this does not just affect AI, but has an influence on human players as well (e.g. by making a city go +5 Unhappiness "We want you to become Christian" or something like that.)
     
  13. Martinus

    Martinus Emperor

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    Suleyman definitely deserves to be in the game.

    Who do you think the other leader is? My guess is that he is Dutch, but his clothes could also represent a Portuguese (or even a second Spanish leader) - after all, the kind of collar he is wearing was popularised in the Netherlands by the Iberians.
     
  14. bds

    bds Warlord

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    WOOOOOOT :woohoo: MECH'S

    Man some people are going to be p#ssed at them being in the game.
     
  15. Martinus

    Martinus Emperor

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    On second thought, considering this is a contemporary depiction of Prince Willem van Oranje, the guy in the screenshot is most likely him, down to the little hat:

     
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    I'm thinking Sumerians or Assyrians.
     
  17. Gaius Octavius

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    Well, it could always just be a scenario...

    BUT given that Babylon gets Archers (clear for the screenshot) I think Sumerians will get a warrior replacement, like the Enkidu Warrior in C3C. Since that looks almost like a Quecha reskin, I'd say the Sumerians are in BtS. I wonder what those are units are for, though?

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  18. Mehmed II

    Mehmed II Ottoman Empire

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    Those War Machines look awesome. This game is geting better and better.
    War machines...:drool: war machines..
     
  19. Rusty Edge

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    Kicking Ax? I figure any UU ( except the fast worker)is a temptation to mass-produce and go to war. I' guessing that since Quechas have an archery bonus, These war-club weilders will have one against melee. I suppose another possibillity would be extra advantage against barbs, so that you could conquer and civilize their cities
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  20. Gaius Octavius

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    Sorry. I meant to say, "I wonder what those OTHER units are for, though," i.e. the mounted units in the lower right. They look like sort of Middle Ages or late Ancient armored knights, even cataphracts... which makes me wonder if this is from a scenario.
     

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