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New Revolution: An Imperium Offtopicum Game

Discussion in 'Imperium OffTopicum' started by Sonereal, Apr 6, 2013.

  1. Ailedhoo

    Ailedhoo wonderer

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    For those who wanted... the C.U.S.S election results for 1960!

    Note the provinces claimed this turn are not counted as this is the March election results: the recruitment came later on in the year.

    Column 1
    Political Party Collective Council Senate
    Social Liberation League 45 18
    Collective Community Congress 25 12
    Abrahamic Democratic Alliance 43 14
    Unity Party of Marxism 26 14
    United Federalist Liberal Alliance 16 9
    Party of Nations 6 13
    African Anarchist Alliance 3 1
    League for Democratic Socialism 10 2
    Christian Unionist Party 7 3
    Islamic Socialist Party 8 4
    United Order Party 1 5
    Peoples Revolution Guild 5 2
    Free Party of the Person 2 0
    Peoples Party Against Colonisation. 18 3
    Malian National Congress 4 0
    Africans for the Colonisation of Europe 1 0
    One Africa Party 1 0
    Overall Seats 220 100


    ...and yes: a new political party is on the scene representing pan-Africanism.

    As you can see there will be talks of reforming the Senate on whether to have more senators or not to match the proportional aspect of C.U.S.S societies with the province representation of each province with each of their 5 councillors per province.

    @Our People's Republic: will this include the Western Sahara? There might be a... slight complication in regards to the recruitment form we sent (OOC: orders locked). Hence we might need to arrange a meeting to discuses the fate of the Western Sahara... we will both be brining plenty of map artists. (OOC: I do think maps should a critical issue here on how good they look. I just do not want the Western Sahara to stick out like a shore spot, looking rather unnatural in its lining.) Be sure that we will be offering you industrial goods (EP) and offers to reintroduce the Freetown Pact so that we can embrace each other as friends again.
     
  2. Tani Coyote

    Tani Coyote Son of Huehuecoyotl

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    South Africa feels this is where the problem inherently lies; we lobbied CUSS quite extensively to avoid colonising Morocco and yet they continued to insist. This is why we severed our military ties to them, as we do not wish to be party to a conflict caused for such trivial purposes.

    Fortunately ever since we left our arrangement they have become more conciliatory and so, we are hopeful that a conflict can be averted.

    The basis of Greece's expulsion was its remarks on Africa, Judaism, and other cultures. South Africa thus concludes that Greece cannot resume its membership without abandoning key tenets of its ideology.

    South Africa suggests the formation of some other alternative economic and political organisation to fulfill the same purpose. It would be more than willing to participate in it as well as the Republican League.
     
  3. Ailedhoo

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    The C.U.S.S will remind South Africa that the controversy is of West Sahara; to class it as part of Morocco would be a insult to the Sahrawi living there, although not a surprise since you allied with the racist colonialist government of Greece. The issue is not over Morocco itself. They have misread our statements and are advised to keep out of the arguments over Western Sahara; this is a issue between the C.U.S.S and Our People's Republic over mapping.

    In the end of the day the issue is on Western Sahara and how it is classed in mapping terms. This is a issue that only Our People's Republic and the C.U.S.S can answer. Hence we are offering conference talks with Our People's Republic. This is not a trivial issue: this is a serious debate over the fate of two provinces and the Sahrawi living there. Whether the Sahrawi answer to Our People's Republic, the Collective Union of Socialist Societies or their own independent government (a third option we are willing to consider) the people of Sahrawi will not be lump in with Morocco for the Sahrawi are not Moroccans as the French are not Romans.
     
  4. Tani Coyote

    Tani Coyote Son of Huehuecoyotl

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    Semantics, it is obvious what South Africa is referring to.

    South Africa requests the CUSS cease throwing polite insults at its government, for it is quickly becoming more deceased than an equine in the Sahara.

    It is the Lord's will that South Africa continue to be a vocal third party in the hopes of peace in the Mediterranean and Africa. To request we remain outward is akin to asking us not to investigate the call of a woman screaming for assistance.
     
  5. Ailedhoo

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    Greece is ruled by dictators with own racist policies and anti-Semantic practices and your calling us out? Its a point that your choice of a ally reflects very badly on you and limits your international voice.


    Peace? The only thing your doing is encouraging tensions! If you want to help peace then keep your month shut over Western Sahara! Your only trying to stop talks which are needed to help find alternatives and have tried to make villains of one of the sides without regards to the effect on the realpolitik situation. As such we will set the meeting between the C.U.S.S and Our People's Government in private.
     
  6. Tani Coyote

    Tani Coyote Son of Huehuecoyotl

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    From South Africa
    To SAPR


    Originally, tensions between SAPR and CUSS were the main reason we did not pursue this initiative sooner. Given our joint belief in the power of faith in one God to accomplish great things and our respectful understanding on the ideals of socialism and communism, we feel it is time to take the next step in our relationship.

    South Africa proposes a full defensive alliance to SAPR as the state has demonstrated itself to not be looking for trouble abroad, despite any disagreements it might have with others. We eagerly await your response.

    From South Africa
    To the Messina Signatories (Spain, Occitania, Rome)


    To serve as a formal guarantee of its goodwill in the disputes over the Mediterranean basis, South Africa hereby requests a non-aggression pact be signed with Spain, Occitania and Rome. We have already announced that we have no quarrel with your reasonable claims, and wish to make this official by showing that we do not subscribe to the "anti-colonialist" sentiment that has been running rampant as of late.
     
  7. Ailedhoo

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    Note: the C.U.S.S will remind South Africa that the argument is between Spain and C.U.S.S. We are not arguing with Rome and Occitania has still France to unite before they could set complaints. Hence the C.U.S.S is convinced that South Africa is unknowing of what they are doing, especially on how they just collectivist the issue to the point of ignoring the nation to nation basis of the argument! Our aim is for the issue of West Sahara and of ensuring Africa has a voice. We will not be silence, especially from the bed dogs of Greece and now the dictatorship in South America. What pray does it lead that your logic lead next? A alliance with the dictatorship in Australia?!

    We are in conducting of meeting with Hispania personally on the issue so that South Africa would not keep adding gasoline to the fire while pretending it is "water."

    OOC: if AA was still in this game I guess he would compare South Africa to the Frost King from Adventure Times.
     
  8. christos200

    christos200 Never tell me the odds

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    Could you please stop insulting our Government? It is not polite at all. But what could you expect from Barbarians? Could Barbarians ever be polite?
     
  9. Ailedhoo

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  10. Terran Empress

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    Rome is willing to sign this Non-Aggression pact.
    Long Live the Imperial Republic.
     
  11. christos200

    christos200 Never tell me the odds

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    New Ministry of Barbarian Affairs:

    It has been decided that the Ministry of Foreign Policy will conduct negotiations only with civilized nations (For the time being Spain, Rome, China, Japan and South Africa), and a new Ministry of Barbarian Affairs will deal with all other nations.
     
  12. Tani Coyote

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    South Africa shall recap its analysis of the issue:

    -Spain, which has minimal land left in Europe, wishes to take Morocco and the Western Sahara. We see no quarrel with this. Going into Africa is simply the most economically-efficient thing to do, and it is a necessity at this point.
    -Occitania wishes to claim Algeria; we already expressed we don’t feel this is very economical, but they politely disagreed. There is nothing further on the subject. CUSS blissfully ignores the fact we disagreed with Occitania, instead preferring to refer to South Africa as European puppets.
    -Rome already gave good grounds as to why it must move southward; it is obliged by treaty obligations and not wanting to peeve Greece. We are fine with a Roman Libya.
    -Greece had intentions of an African colony, but we were able to convince their government a more efficient model would be to push into the Balkans instead. We commemorated this peaceful diffusing of any possible tension with a full alliance.
    -CUSS, while having large tracts of land to its south and east, insisted on having the Western Sahara, something that Spain could use far, far more than CUSS. This is why we continued to escalate our response to CUSS’ behavior; Spain has everything to lose from not gaining the Western Sahara where CUSS has absolutely nothing to lose.

    To put it in condensed terms: Rome and Spain have every reason to push into Africa for their own survival. CUSS is being needlessly antagonistic over a handful of provinces when it could simply go elsewhere and avoid a quarrel. CUSS, Rome and Spain are three nations in a room, each wishing for air to breathe. Rome and Spain are trying to move towards the center, but CUSS insists on pressing them into the wall and crushing their lungs, calling them imperialists for desiring simple air for their nationals. This is despite the fact the whole room behind CUSS is available for CUSS to go to if it so pleases.

    We are considering CUSS the aggressor in this conflict should any war break out, and tore up our treaty precisely so when we did not fire a single shot in the event of a Messina-CUSS war, we could not be demonized.

    Unfortunately we’re being demonized anyway, and are genuinely curious how much more CUSS wishes to diplomatically isolate itself. As far as we know only Egypt and Arabia are neighbors that are not currently having tensions with CUSS, and we don’t feel that this will last long.
     
  13. Ailedhoo

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    We would again remind South Africa to keep out of the issue, especially as you are now slandering the C.U.S.S and forgetting that we did not threaten war.
     
  14. Robert Can't

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    I think this issues does concern South Africa - it is an issue of the future of an entire continent, or so you seem to suggest.
     
  15. Terran Empress

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    As Spain has pointed out, this is an issue of the entire continent, not just North Africa
     
  16. Tani Coyote

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    South Africa thanks Rome for its acceptance, and hopes good relations may continue in the future.

    Not directly, anyway.

    Spain announced its intention to use force if necessary to guarantee its hold on Morocco and West Sahara; CUSS insisted on keeping land in the West Sahara.

    Translation: CUSS is practically inviting a war with Spain. Spain has not shown any ill-will towards CUSS, but on the reverse we are not so sure.

    Precisely. That and we feel it is of the human interest a war be averted... which is why we keep requesting CUSS swallow its pride and yield the three territories.

    Never mind we already articulated the supremacy of the Messina forces to CUSS should a war break out; we presumed this reasoning would facilitate a more conciliatory approach, which seems to be working.

    Unfortunately long after we already dismantled our alliance, and after CUSS has effectively shut down any possibility of a renewal with its insults.
     
  17. christos200

    christos200 Never tell me the odds

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    THE GREAT, DEAR, WISE, BELOVED SUPREME BRILLIANT LEADER COMMANDER PAPAGOS:



    The Great, Dear, Wise, Beloved Supreme Brilliant Leader Commander Alexander Papagos has gave a speech to the people of Greece:

    ''The Great Holy People's Army of Greece, with the help of God, stands ready to begin the invasion of South China and it's liberation from the Warlords. Meanwhile, our Army will start civilizing the Balkans. Teachers will come to educate our Orthodox Balkan Brothers on the wonders of civilization, so they will become Greeks.

    About the Barbarians of CUSS, we have only one thing to say. They have no culture or civilization. They are not worth to even be slaves. The Communists, led by Jewish Bankers, have established a Mafia State upon the poor and barbarian people of Western Africa. But their liberation will soon come. If the CUSS continue to insult our nation and the Greeks people, they will start a World War Three that they cannot win! ''

    The people shouted:

    ''Long live Commander Papagos! Long live the Dear Leader!!''
     
  18. christos200

    christos200 Never tell me the odds

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    Greece shall form the: Global Trade Organization (GTO)

    It will be a Forum for nations to agree on Trade Agreements and will secure Free Trade between nations. All nation are invited, except for CUSS and the Communists.
     
  19. Ailedhoo

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    Well since it is leaded by a fascist Greece...

    What does the Republican League and its values for democracy say on this? As a RL member I suggest we keep out of the GTO and its racist leadership.
     
  20. Jarrema

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    SAPR enters full defensive alliance with South Africa. But we want to emphasize that it is only defensive alliance.
     

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