New Unit: Japanese G4M "Betty" Bomber

[ripptide]

WW2 Japanese medium bomber

G4M Betty

 

[Snorken]

Yeah! 6 stars out of 5! I've been waiting for someone to do this unit!

 

[No idea]

Looks great! How come you've made so many at once?

 

[Ozymandias]

Looks great! How come you've made so many at once?

Rather like he's living up to his monicker -- sweet work, Ripptide

-Oz

 

[Goldflash]

Ripttide works in waves.... I was just getting a feeling that we'd get some Ripttide units soon

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

Yesss, it is here- an in quite wonderful form too: just like the one in my book (exactly the same pattern and same decals) - I am glad RT is still at it

 

[TopGun]

Ripp, I've been waiting for this bomber for a long time.. Thanks alot for making it! (Somehow I had an inkling you'd be the one to realize this Japanese bomber...)

 

[cemo1956]

Ripptide,
how I have waited for this bomber, and then after a long time no see Ripptide you come back with a baaaang as always.
Lots of outstanding units, but then everyone have been waiting for this (and dare I say more)

Whatever it's nice to see your fine units and your presence back....

Cemo

 

[cemo1956]

I must of course add the issue
of the D3A Val to complement your fine Kate torpedo model...

Will it come soon, or like some others I wait for pop up in the SOP package.

Cemo

 

[Snorken]

I'd love the Aichi Val!

 

[ripptide]

Not sure how fast you'll see one cemo, but it's not one reserved for SOP, just don't have a model nor havn't started building one yet, so can't give a timeline for it sorry

 

[Wyrmshadow]

I must of course add the issue
of the D3A Val to complement your fine Kate torpedo model...

Will it come soon, or like some others I wait for pop up in the SOP package.

Cemo

Is this what you're looking for?

 

[Fixer07]

Outstanding. I have wanted this one and a He-280 forever. Thanks a lot...

 

[cemo1956]

The new Jap aircraft from Ripptide brings me to think about the scenario/mod SOP.
Lets see this as a wishlist besides the comments and info on the question of Japanese Aircrafts of WW2.


Some fine variants of the famous ZERO is to be had, both the PTW version and the much finer one from Wyrmshadow.

Aaglo made a fine Mitsubishi G3M "Nell" longrange landbased bomber.

The Val by Wyrmshadow is must probably a Nakajima B5N "Kate" torpedobomber. The cockpit of the Kate is more like the one made,
so naturally I hope some will come forward and create a true version of the Aichi D3A "Val" dive bomber. It was the japs counterpart to the famous SBD Dauntless.

The Yokosuka Ohka Kamikaze aircraft was made by Wyrmshadow.

Then we have the xxxx version of Mitsubish Ki-30 "Anne". This could be used as the Val too, but I still think it's better version as the older divebomber used by the Japanese Army in the war against China in the 30's.

Wyrmshadow then have the Mitsubishi J2M Raiden "Jack" in his fine collection. This was an interceptor that could be used to upgrade the Zero. It was the fighter trying to fight of the B-29 bombers attacks at the end of the war.

The Kawasaki Ki-63 Hien "Tony" was also made by Wyrmshadow. This fighter belonged to the Army It was brought into action in New Guinea in 1943 and also played a part in the defense of the Japanese mainland.

Then finally we have the "brother" to the Zero. Nakajima Ki-43 "Oscar". Just grand.
This was of course the predecessor to the Ki-63 Hien.

On the fighters we have an upgrade path for the Navy-version ; Zero then Raiden and for the Army we have this Ki-43 to the Ki-63.

If we should look to still important fighters it would be the early Mitsubishi A5M "Claude" that served as the Jap Navys most important fighter during the Sino-Japanese war and was numerically the most important fighter at the time of Pearl Harbor.

The armies version of early fighter was the Nakajima Ki-27 "Nate" . This first low-wing monoplane fighter was in production from 1937 to 1940, then replaced by Ki-43.

The best fighter in the Jap Army was surely the Nakajima Ki-84 Hayate "Frank". It was only made operational in early 1944.

So eventually I hope for a complete upgrade situation in time for SOP for the fighters like perhaps this.
Jap Navy: Claude - early Zero - late Zero - Raiden
Jap Army: Ki-27 - Ki-43 - Ki-63 - Ki-84
In my opinion just superb.

On the bombing situation it might be harder and more planes have to be made.
Beside the early divebomber Ki-30 "Anne" served the heavy bomber Mitsubishi Ki-21 "Sally".

I do think we miss the most famous of all jap bombers in Mitsubishi G4M "Betty". It should of course be an upgrade to the present G3M "Nell" bomber, both with lethal seabombardment.

To finish the heavier bombers upgrade path we should look to the Mitsubishi Ki-67 Hiryu "Peggy" that came into service early 1944.

Considering the bombers we must look to complete the important Jap Navy dive- and torpedo bombers.

The Aichi D3A "Val" is a most, together with Nakajima B5N "Kate" torpedobomber the most famous Jap plane beside the Zero.
The B5N "Kate" was followed as a torpedobomber by the Nakajima B6N Tenzan "Jill", almost as famous. A third upgrade should have been the powerful torpedo bomber Aichi B7A Ryusei "Grace" that begun to arrive in service mid 1944.

So torpedobombers: Kate - Jill - Grace

The divebomber Val was followed in the upgrade path by Yokosuka D4Y Suisei "Judy" sometime in late 1942.

That would make an upgrade for dive-bombers : Ann - Val - Judy

Of course several more version could be brought forward but even this list for a almost complete SOP is huge and hard to accomplish.
However I and surely more will hope for the best.

For those that lost the long respons I give a short list to remember and comment.

Fighters for the Army
Ki-27 Nate
Ki-43 Oscar already made
Ki-63 Toni already made
Ki-84 Frank

Fighters for the Navy
A5M Claude
A6M Zero already made
J2M Raiden already made

Dive/torpedo bombers
Ki-30 Ann already made
D3A Val alreade made, BUT a question if not this is a B5N Kate
B5N Kate also made after this quote by Ripptide
B6N Jill
B7N Grace

Medium and heavy bombers
G3M Nell already made
G4M Betty NOW DONE
Ki-67 Hiryu

Supercreators like Ripptide, Wyrmshadow, Bebro, Hunter, Winter, Aglo and probably dozens more I can't remember. I put my hopes in you...

I'm sure the creators of the upcoming SOP will agree....

Hm Wyrmshadow I included a reply to Ripptides old Ki-43 Oscar to debate if that fine aircraft of yours named Val isn't really a Kate.
It does look more like a Kate in-game, but it's a Val on that picture for sure.
Never mind it's a matter of opinion and one can use it for whatever, especially a Val.
But the long quote issues a bit the upgrades needed, and since that time I'm sure some of those aircrafts have been done.

Just look it over for future thinking on what WW2 aircrafts is missing IMHO.

 

[Wyrmshadow]

I figured out it was a Jill, the replacement for the Kate.

 

[cemo1956]

Wyrmshadow,
that is surely correct so we then got an upgrade chain

Dive/torpedo bombers
Ki-30 Ann already made
D3A Val alreade made, BUT a question if not this is a B5N Kate
B5N Kate also made after this quote by Ripptide
B6N Jill the older Wyrmshadow version registered as the Val
B7N Grace

But then if my memory doesn't play tricks I think Ripptide mentioned to make a Jill too. Whatever, then we use that as Grace.

Many thanks gents for this
Cemo

 

[Wyrmshadow]

I already have the entire USN carrier airgroup ready, but I'm still on ships.

 

[W.i.n.t.e.r]

Yup, we need some Japanese ships rather than planes (someday) Old Betty though came out perfect

 

[Wyrmshadow]

I got bored, so I made my first aircraft in months

 

[No idea]

Is their any way to have planes which can only go on land and not in carriers? Because if not it would make it a bit pointless to have separate army and navy planes wouldn't it?