New Unit: Macedonian Elephant (July 31, 2006)

[woodelf]

It sure is beautiful.

 

[DragonBird]

That's hu-uuu-ge

And there's nothing wrong in the death. Except maybe the castle should break apart a bit... but maybe it's made of good strong wood

well I think a more realistic death would have the head flop to one side then topple over on the ground but the feet stay in the same position, and the tower shatters.

OR

you could just overly rig the elephant so you wouldn't have to see it die

atk 5000 def 5000 mov 5000 bom rng 5000 bom atk 5000 and so on and so forth

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

I don't think theres anything wrong with the death. Its quick and easy, nobody should have to spend time redoing a unit because of the death animation. Great unit Utahjazz, and I'm glad to see ya doing Elephents now, I hope my Elephent Worker(whenever I finish it) is as good as your elephent

 

[Yoda Power]

An exellent and useful unit

 

[The Last Conformist]

Not bad at all.

The #1 improvement I'd suggest, if you're gonna revisit this, is adding a guy or two in the howdah - a war elephant running about on its own is a little weird.

The #2 would be redoing the walk, which looks a bit ... odd. The death is uninspiring, but not every unit needs a spectacular death.

 

[Cimbri]

Wow! Very nice, Utah.

 

[Stormrage]

Um, I have a question about the animal itself.. Did you base it on a unit the Macedonians could`ve started using after coming back from India, or something like the Hannibal`s Big Boyz? Cos thats an african elephant

I think the walk looks better than what real elephant running looks - like it was filmed for a Charile Chaplin movie

 

[utahjazz7]

Um, I have a question about the animal itself.. Did you base it on a unit the Macedonians could`ve started using after coming back from India, or something like the Hannibal`s Big Boyz? Cos thats an african elephant

I think the walk looks better than what real elephant running looks - like it was filmed for a Charile Chaplin movie

Umm . . . I just found a picture of a War Elephant online, got an elephant model, and started making the unit. I didn't concider what type of elephant the model was; I don't even know how to tell the difference, to be honest.

 

[utahjazz7]

Wow! Very nice, Utah.

Thanks, nice to see you around.

 

[Cimbri]

Thanks, nice to see you around.

Likewise.

Nice details, by the way. I love the way the ears wiggle.

 

[Stormrage]

African elephants are larger and have big ears, and asian (indian) elephants are smaller and have smaller ears. Also, asian elephants highest point is the tip of its head, while the african one`s are the shoulders.

But the coolest difference is this - African`s ears are shaped like Africa and Indian`s ears are shaped like India

African

Indian

 

[utahjazz7]

"Now I know . . . and knowing is half the battle!"

 

[Goldflash]

That means I'm losing Just about every battle, becauz I know Nofing!

 

[aaglo]

FTXCL

 

[The Last Conformist]

Regarding elephant types, it may be noted that Hannibals were of the now-extinct North African variant, which was smaller than either the African or Indian elephants we know today.

Macedonian armies in the Hellenistic period might field either or both Indian and North African elephants.

 

[rifleman]

African elephants are larger and have big ears, and asian (indian) elephants are smaller and have smaller ears. Also, asian elephants highest point is the tip of its head, while the african one`s are the shoulders.

But the coolest difference is this - African`s ears are shaped like Africa and Indian`s ears are shaped like India

The real elephant's that the Carthagenian's and a lot of the Greek's used doesn't even exist any more. They were called African Mountain elephants and they lived in North Africa by Carthage. While they were smaller than both modern African and Asian elephants, I think they did have big ears like these.

Nice unit btw, but where are the people?

 

[Blue Monkey]

To quote Wikipedia:"DNA testing has now shown that there are in fact three extant elephant species: the two African types (formerly considered to be separate populations of a single species, the African Elephant) and the South Asian species, known as the Indian or Asian Elephant. The North African elephant of Hannibal fame was a now-extinct fourth species or a subspecies of the Forest Elephant (Loxodonta (africana) pharaoensis); it disappeared around the 1st or 2nd century CE. ...Differences include the African Forest Elephant's long, narrow mandible (the African Bush Elephant's is short and wide), its rounded ears (an African Bush Elephant's ears are more pointed), different tusks, and considerably smaller size. The Male African Forest Elephant rarely exceed 2.5 metres (8 feet) in height, while the African Bush Elephant is usually over 3 metres (just under 10 feet) and sometimes almost 4 metres (13 feet) tall. ...Asian Elephants have other differences from their African relatives, including a more arched back than the African, one semi-prehensile "finger" at the tip of their trunk as opposed to two, 4 nails on each hind foot instead of three, and 19 pairs of ribs instead of 21. Also, unlike female African Elephants, female Asian Elephants lack tusks. The forehead has two hemispherical bulges unlike the flat front of the African. Some males may also lack tusks and they are termed as makhnas. The population in Sri Lanka has a greater number of makhnas."

There is also some mention in primary sources of a "Syrian" elephant, also now extinct; there is some doubt from the descriptions whether it was a transplanted population of Indians, or a species related to the N. African, or a hybrid.

 

[Virote_Considon]

Did somebody say Charlie Chaplin?

And thank you a lot for this unit, utah. The Macedonians have a lack of units in a scenario I'm working on.

 

[Ekmek]

awesome. amazing to see utahjazz still making units

 

[Takhisis]

Um, I have a question about the animal itself.. Did you base it on a unit the Macedonians could`ve started using after coming back from India, or something like the Hannibal`s Big Boyz? Cos thats an african elephant

Hey, the Elephants used by the Carthaginians were -now extinct- Forest Elephants. The real African Elephants proved untameable for the time being. And these Forest Elephants were smaller than the Asian Elephants of Antiochus III Megas...