Newsflash: Iranian court hands out shockingly brutal, yet just punishment

[Defiant47]

And at least one innocent person.

We're not here to assess the potential failures of the justice system.

 

[Evie]

I'm more of a rehabilitation guy, but that's not a criminal that needs rehabilitation. While I can't condone the punishment, I am smirking at it.

Essentialy, yes.

I'd much rather Iran was a more modern country, and had a rehabilitation-based penal system. But it doesn't (of course, even great and mighty america still hangs on to Eye for an Eye in part), and most of the times the results we hear about are brutally unjust and misogynistic.

It's nice to hear about something...well, not so unjust and not so misogynistic coming out of that country's justice system. Even if it's still horribly flawed.

 

[Berzerker]

Agreed, i thought law and order had evolved passed those stages, and while i think this man probably deserves it, its still should not happen, its a bad precedent

if the bastards who'd do it get acid in their face, maybe some will think twice. Its her call...

 

[Berzerker]

Also, this is unjust for the Iranians. Now their society will have two useless individuals, not just one.

Yeah, who will run around throwing acid in women's faces?

Being useless would be an improvement for this guy

 

[El_Machinae]

I hadn't thought of that. Maybe the eyes could have been put into the woman.

I think we're a really long way away from eye transplants. I think cybernetics will be the most likely way to 'cure' blindness in people who've had their eyes ruined.

 

[RalofTyr]

Yeah, who will run around throwing acid in women's faces?

Being useless would be an improvement for this guy

Everyone in Iran throws acid on women's faces. It's like hazing.

Anyways, now his relatives and society will have a blind jerk running around, doing nothing instead of a blind jerk doing 10 years hard labor for the state.

 

[Sui Generis]

I think that "an eye for an eye" is a terrible idea for justice.

Read Al-Baqara in the Qu'ran. It specifically allows for "An eye for an eye", unless the attacked party, or the brother of the attacked party, forgives the attacker, in which case a settlement would be agreed upon.

Edit: Its been awhile since I read the Qu'ran though, so I might be wrong.

 

[civ_king]

"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind"
Mahatma Ghandi

 

[Defiant47]

"An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind"
Mahatma Ghandi

WRONG!

It leaves the criminals in the world blind.

 

[cubsfan6506]

"If this sentence is properly publicised in the media, it will stop the repetition of such incidents," he told the news website Tabnak. "Awareness of the punishment has a huge deterrent effect in stopping social crimes."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/28/iran-acid-attack-sharia-law
Do you agree with the punishment?

Not fair there porbaly would been another acid attack anyways.

 

[Berzerker]

Everyone in Iran throws acid on women's faces. It's like hazing.

Apparently it happens enough for it to be a problem worth deterring... This will help.

Anyways, now his relatives and society will have a blind jerk running around, doing nothing instead of a blind jerk doing 10 years hard labor for the state.

Yeah, oh well... I'd rather lose the 10 years of "hard labor" than risk this clown hurting someone else like that again. I'd put 'em in the chair and let her decide to throw the switch.

 

[Yeekim]

Yeah, who will run around throwing acid in women's faces?

Being useless would be an improvement for this guy

I wholeheartedly agree. The punishment was entirely fair.
Those who wouldn't agree probably find the following joke an apt description of themselves:

"A guy, robbed, stabbed and severely beaten lies down on a street in a pool of his own blood and moans quietly. A social worker passes by, takes a shocked look at the man and finally mutters to himself: "Now, whoever did this really needs serious help..."

 

[Sharwood]

It's just, though as El_mac said, I'd prefer they removed the eyes. Hell, I wouldn't mind throwing acid in the guy's face just for the hell of it afterwards.

This reminds me of balancing, from Robert Heinlein's novel, The Number of the Beast. Guy who ran over a woman, who then had to have her legs amputated, was tied down, had his legs run over, then cut off once he'd felt enough pain according to the doctor.

 

[plarq]

Why can't they just give him a death penalty?

 

[Sharwood]

Why can't they just give him a death penalty?

Because the woman specifically asked for this.

 

[GoodSarmatian]

Read Al-Baqara in the Qu'ran. It specifically allows for "An eye for an eye", unless the attacked party, or the brother of the attacked party, forgives the attacker, in which case a settlement would be agreed upon.

Edit: Its been awhile since I read the Qu'ran though, so I might be wrong.

Just because it's written in the Qu'ran doesn't mean it's not a terrible idea.

 

[Sharwood]

Just because it's written in the Qu'ran doesn't mean it's not a terrible idea.

Hell, 90% of the stuff written in all holy books is an absolutely terrible idea.

 

[El_Machinae]

Oh, I don't want people to think that I approve of such barbarity. Heck, they're going to need to get guards and a doctor to drop acid in someone's eyes. Anyone willing to do that shouldn't have any type of government authority.

 

[LucyDuke]

We're not here to assess the potential failures of the justice system.

Then don't insist in font size three that there is no potential for failure.

 

[Defiant47]

Then don't insist in font size three that there is no potential for failure.

Then would you agree with a saying about our current justice system that "the whole world goes to jail"?