Newsflash: Iranian court hands out shockingly brutal, yet just punishment

[Yeekim]

I don't know if it's fair or just, but it's definitely not appropriate, nor humane.

Springs and interesting question: can there be a proportionate, yet humane punishment for an inhumane crime?

Depends on what we call humane, I guess...

@Ralph
True. Yet, he would probably be a similar burden while in prison...

 

[Brighteye]

Agreed, i thought law and order had evolved past those stages, and while i think this man probably deserves it, its still should not happen, its a bad precedent

Law and order can't evolve past its one goal of justice.

I wholeheartedly agree. The punishment was entirely fair.
Those who wouldn't agree probably find the following joke an apt description of themselves:

"A guy, robbed, stabbed and severely beaten lies down on a street in a pool of his own blood and moans quietly. A social worker passes by, takes a shocked look at the man and finally mutters to himself: "Now, whoever did this really needs serious help..."

You made me smile.

Oh, I don't want people to think that I approve of such barbarity. Heck, they're going to need to get guards and a doctor to drop acid in someone's eyes. Anyone willing to do that shouldn't have any type of government authority.

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It was never about "predefined punishment". It was about a punishment in which the punishment was equal to the crime, as opposed to being proportionate to the crime. It's barbaric and unjust.

I agree entirely. I could never agree to letting him off so lightly: this is incredibly unjust. I'd drip acid all over his face, let him see the result and then do his eyes too. That's proportionate.

No, it's not. The idea of a "punishment fitting the crime" does not mean that you can steal someone's stuff as a punishment of them stealing your stuff, it just means that there's a just punishment that is proportional to the amount of damage done.

So doing the same amount of damage is not one version of proportional? I don't see how you can justify that. The penalty under such a rule most certainly does vary proportionally with the crime!

 

[LucyDuke]

The thing is this scumbag is now a state-created burden on society. Presumebly he will need assistance, medical treatment etc.

What social services does Iran give? I figured they'd just let him fend for his damn self.

 

[Gogf]

The punishment should fit the crime, not be the crime. There is a reason that certain actions are crimes. In this case, the act of burning someone's eyes out with acid is barbaric and should not be practiced by the state for any reason.

I think capital punishment, however, is a different story entirely.

 

[silver 2039]

I think capitalism punishment, however, is a different story entirely.

Accursed capitalism.

 

[Gogf]

Bah! Nice ninja-quote .

 

[PlutonianEmpire]

I'm more of a rehabilitation guy, but that's not a criminal that needs rehabilitation. While I can't condone the punishment, I am smirking at it.

There are some criminals that just can't be rehabilitated no matter what. I know one such guy...

I think that "an eye for an eye" is a terrible idea for justice.

Agreed.

 

[Gogf]

Law and order can't evolve past its one goal of justice.

Law and order doesn't have any our goals.

Our judicial system's primary goal is law and order. That means that the primary function of our judicial system is to keep society safe and prevent crimes, which has traditionally been done by locking criminals in prison or executing them. Justice is certainly a part of that, but it's not the only part.

I'm also interested in someone explaining to me how torturing someone as a punishment for this crime is "justice."

 

[globaooba]

i agree with his eyes being burnt. its like when someone punches you, if you'r normal, you'll punch back.