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Nicolas Maduro Wins Venezuelan Presidency in Close Race

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by ReindeerThistle, Apr 14, 2013.

  1. ReindeerThistle

    ReindeerThistle Zimmerwald Left

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    The predictions were close, and once again the principles of the Bolivarian Consitution and the Bolivarian Revolution have prevailed. Congratulations, Maduro. Viva Venezuela!

    Edit: Here is where I saw it happen!
     
  2. TheLastOne36

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    Well, my mothers country now has a hopeless future.

    I don't know what's worse, the very real possibility of the elections being rigged, or that half of Venezuelans are stupid enough to vote for this clown.

    I fear for the opposition and also for some chavistas that opposed Maduro. They better gtfo of the country asap. Maduro won't tolerate them.
     
  3. Neomega

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    CIA is salivating at what it can do now to Venezuela, since it just got done jerking off to news of Chavez' death.

    Very weak showing for Maduro. Probably going to lead to division, decay, and I know, CIA is keeping their fingers crossed, civil war.
     
  4. TheLastOne36

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    I wonder what other country in the world would vote for the candidate that is turning the country into a pseudo-colony of the Castro brothers.

    At the end of the day, a good chunk of Venezuelans voted for him and probably believe he along with Cuba is the right path for the country. I am really sorry for the other half aren't misguided fools.

    At least I can finally forget I ever have a relation with that country. Chapter closed.
     
  5. TheLastOne36

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    Hmm first thing Maduro did in his speech was call all those who voted for Capriles evil bourgeoisie and traitors. Great start.
     
  6. ReindeerThistle

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    Read Eva Golinger's The Chavez Code, if you have not already. The US spends millions trying to destabilize Venezuela -- even more on Cuba. And they have survived. Even IF Maduro lost, you would still have the Comunas and the Bolivarian Circles, and the Misiones. No one can TAKE socialism from a people, they have to give it away. And even though 50.66% voted for Maduro, 75% use the Country's free public healh system -- and that means something.

    So, be of good cheer. Socialism is winning!
     
  7. TheLastOne36

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    My grandmother would be dieing from breast cancer right now because there are no medical supplies in Venezuela to do the necessary chemotherapy, and the waiting list for doctors is several months. Luckily I sold the car I had to leave behind in Venezuela and used the money to help pay for a private clinic in Colombia. Viva Socialism.

    Not everyone is lucky enough to have an affluent foreigner grandson.

    If you want to talk about the success of socialism, check out Scandinavia. What Venezuela has is just mentiras frescas.
     
  8. bhsup

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    I weep for the world. :(
     
  9. Ajidica

    Ajidica High Quality Person

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    From what I have read of Maduro, he seems to have Chavez's flaws with few redeeming characteristics while Capriles came off pretty decently.

    Speaking purely from a devil's advocate point of view, isn't it a better use of medical resources to focus on improving base quality-of-life issue (such as vaccinations, combating malnutrition, etc) rather than focusing on -to be completely blunt- luxury medicine? If I was a health ministry official and had to choose between chemo treatments for one person or vaccines for twenty, I would go with the vaccines for twenty.
     
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    BirraImperial Pura Vida!

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    Either most Venezuelans have been brainwashed by government propaganda or most are just so stupid that voted for this clown...
     
  12. ace99

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    In what universe is chemotherapy a luxury?
     
  13. Formaldehyde

    Formaldehyde Both Fair And Balanced

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    Unlike you who called the new leader a "clown" while insinuating the voting must be rigged, that people who voted for him were "stupid", and that those who voted against him should now be in fear of their own lives. "Great start" albeit quite predictable. :crazyeye:

    I just love these threads. It invariably brings out those who are still fighting the Cold War.
     
  14. Ajidica

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    In a developing country you can spent a boatload of money on one (old) person for a treatment that may not work or you can spend the money on vaccines and malnutrition aid for children or similar sorts of medicine. Perhaps I have a very warped moral core but if I am forced into making life-or-death decisions I would go with the decision that yields the largest return.
     
  15. Formaldehyde

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    First it should be shown that chemotherapy is a treatment only given to certain people in Venezuela like Chavez, instead of one which is readily available.

    A Look at the Venezuelan Healthcare System

    After all, we aren't talking about the US here.

     
  16. TheLastOne36

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    I am brown alongside many of Capriles' supporters.

    Difference being I am not a recently elected head of state.

    Plus he is a clown in any and every way.

    edit: Also the election can be justifiably called rigged with what information we have available. Thousands of undocumented Cubans and Colombians arrived in the country and were given documents to vote for Maduro. Voting machines that were not even used were found to be registered with thousands of votes favoring Maduro as well. People favoring him voted with 10+ fake IDs each. There were cases of armed thugs threatening voters at gunpoint in front of booths. A lot of this was reported live (Venezuelan voters formed mobs to not allow Cubans in for example). Not to mention the fact that we had to wait over 4 hours for the election results after everything was counted. For reference, Chavez was called president at 8pm last year. Many people are pointing to fraud, not just me.

    When your country has billions of oil money, you can spend money on both chemo and vaccines.



    I am leaving this thread for a while to allow the news to sink in and to collect my thoughts on the matter. I don't feel like dealing with Forma just yet, and he is right, I am posting with more emotion than reason.
     
  17. MobBoss

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    Well, all I know is if you are cheering for this, it's got to be a bad thing.
     
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    Subbing for the inevitable showdown. :popcorn:
     
  19. ReindeerThistle

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    Me, too. I started this thread to draw the right-wingers off of Ask a Red and North Korea threads.

    We Buckeyes are always up or a good scrap. Pass the :popcorn:

    Case in point:

    I take that as a compliment, BTW!
     
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    Why? Socialism has given every Cuban the opportunity to own a valuable vintage car, for instance.
     

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