Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by PreLynMax, Dec 14, 2010.
It's good for A.I.'s and MP games (early rushes).
If you do get screwed out of metal and horses AND you have the mis-fortune of playing a civ that does not have a resourceless UU, then Mali or Babylon are your friends. Both civs have an archer UU that is excellent on defense and can be taken on the offensive in vast quantity. I have had successful war before with the skirmisher and catapults (construction beeline after discovering no metal/horse). I haven't had to try yet with Hammy's Bowmen. It is tough not getting the metals or horses and holding on until LB's, but it is possible with some tactics, and good empire building (lots of roads)
The AI is incompetent at war (and much else besides); that's the human's biggest advantage.
Be friendly toward your neighbours, share religion, take care of bad relationship between your neighbors and the rest of civs
tech gunpowder early. Trebs + muskeets -> not so impressive as trebs+maces, but work very well (espacially janissaries)
No need for Trebs, Maces, or Muskets. I don't think enough folks have been in this position to truly comprehend the awesome power of a large stack of Cats; greatly enhanced by the AI's incompetence. Cats and Archers can do a very good job of breaking you out of the bag early, which is a consideration in that the AI will only get stronger, and your maintenance costs higher, the longer you tarry. Construction is your friend, and will bring you horses, metal, riches, and fame.
...and women, don't forget women
It's difficult to amass a large stack of women though.
Here's my ultimate solution to no metal: Reload from turn 0, regenerate map. Repeat if necessary.
I don't have the patience nor the tolerance necessary to play a game I know I'm going to lose.
LOLZ! Why not just dial down the difficulty?!? I'm sure I could beat settler without building a unit more advanced than a warrior.
So basically you're saying that it's impossible to take metal from a neighbor?
Yeah ,if you`re unlucky enough not have iron ,horses or copper chances are that aggresive neighbours with these resources are already preparing to invade you.
It's easier to amass a small stack of large women.
Sure, if you don't have any of them you've really got your work cut out for you, but earlier in the thread he said that even if you had horses you couldn't take metal, which isn't even remotely accurate.
If you don't have immediate metal in your start it should be time to add a new strategy to your repertoire rather than automatically bailing.
Yeah. If a player does not appreciate the power of chariot/HA rushes, then he probably has not beaten a higher difficulty game.
Just build a stack of whore elephants.
You've just got to know how to stack them.
Build lots of spies at Industrial Era?
What does building lots of spies have to do with stacking women?
James Bond could do it. You're English, you ought to know this.
Especially in America
See above James Bond comment
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