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No Copper, No Iron, No More Mr. Nice Max

Discussion in 'Civ4 - General Discussions' started by PreLynMax, Dec 14, 2010.

  1. ywhtptgtfo

    ywhtptgtfo Emperor

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    It's good for A.I.'s and MP games (early rushes).
     
  2. theskibum

    theskibum Brewer of Oatmeal Stout

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    If you do get screwed out of metal and horses AND you have the mis-fortune of playing a civ that does not have a resourceless UU, then Mali or Babylon are your friends. Both civs have an archer UU that is excellent on defense and can be taken on the offensive in vast quantity. I have had successful war before with the skirmisher and catapults (construction beeline after discovering no metal/horse). I haven't had to try yet with Hammy's Bowmen. It is tough not getting the metals or horses and holding on until LB's, but it is possible with some tactics, and good empire building (lots of roads)
     
  3. bestbrian

    bestbrian Just this guy, ya know?

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    The AI is incompetent at war (and much else besides); that's the human's biggest advantage.
     
  4. enKage

    enKage Follower of Zoamelgustar

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    Be friendly toward your neighbours, share religion, take care of bad relationship between your neighbors and the rest of civs

    tech gunpowder early. Trebs + muskeets -> not so impressive as trebs+maces, but work very well (espacially janissaries)
     
  5. bestbrian

    bestbrian Just this guy, ya know?

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    No need for Trebs, Maces, or Muskets. I don't think enough folks have been in this position to truly comprehend the awesome power of a large stack of Cats; greatly enhanced by the AI's incompetence. Cats and Archers can do a very good job of breaking you out of the bag early, which is a consideration in that the AI will only get stronger, and your maintenance costs higher, the longer you tarry. Construction is your friend, and will bring you horses, metal, riches, and fame. :D
     
  6. theskibum

    theskibum Brewer of Oatmeal Stout

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    ...and women, don't forget women
     
  7. ParadigmShifter

    ParadigmShifter Random Nonsense Generator

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    It's difficult to amass a large stack of women though.
     
  8. PreLynMax

    PreLynMax Your Lord and Master

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    Here's my ultimate solution to no metal: Reload from turn 0, regenerate map. Repeat if necessary.
    I don't have the patience nor the tolerance necessary to play a game I know I'm going to lose.
     
  9. Gwynnja

    Gwynnja Deity

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    LOLZ! Why not just dial down the difficulty?!? I'm sure I could beat settler without building a unit more advanced than a warrior.
     
  10. snepp

    snepp King

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    So basically you're saying that it's impossible to take metal from a neighbor?
     
  11. Blahblahman123

    Blahblahman123 Chieftain

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    Yeah ,if you`re unlucky enough not have iron ,horses or copper chances are that aggresive neighbours with these resources are already preparing to invade you.
     
  12. Blahblahman123

    Blahblahman123 Chieftain

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  13. Gwynnja

    Gwynnja Deity

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    It's easier to amass a small stack of large women.
     
  14. snepp

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    Sure, if you don't have any of them you've really got your work cut out for you, but earlier in the thread he said that even if you had horses you couldn't take metal, which isn't even remotely accurate.

    If you don't have immediate metal in your start it should be time to add a new strategy to your repertoire rather than automatically bailing.
     
  15. ywhtptgtfo

    ywhtptgtfo Emperor

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    Yeah. If a player does not appreciate the power of chariot/HA rushes, then he probably has not beaten a higher difficulty game.
     
  16. Dr.Null

    Dr.Null forIhavetastedthesushi

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    Just build a stack of whore elephants.
     
  17. bestbrian

    bestbrian Just this guy, ya know?

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    You've just got to know how to stack them.
     
  18. ywhtptgtfo

    ywhtptgtfo Emperor

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    Build lots of spies at Industrial Era?
     
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    bestbrian Just this guy, ya know?

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    What does building lots of spies have to do with stacking women? :confused: :lol:
     
  20. theskibum

    theskibum Brewer of Oatmeal Stout

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    James Bond could do it. You're English, you ought to know this.

    Especially in America

    See above James Bond comment
     

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