no-wonders game

[MqsTout]

I was wondering, has anyone made a "no wonders" mod? It'd be pretty simple to do, but if I can save time, great. A check box for pre-game setup would be awesome.

I also wonder, what would people suggest as a bonus to the industrious to make up for a wonderless game? I'm thinking a bonus like the financial one, but at a lesser scale, would work. +1 for tiles already producing 3, perhaps?

 

[Seras]

how about an extra hammer per engineer specialist?

 

[MqsTout]

That's an awfully bit specialised, don't you think? Trait bonuses tend to be rather general and wide-ranged. How many engineers can you get in your nation, even if you try to run a specialist economy? By the time you can get very many (factories, etc), the +1 extra hammer per isn't too terribly big.

 

[Seras]

well i was thinking along the lines of not making it overpowering...as i feel the first suggestion would be.

and it would make engineer specialist more worth it =)

 

[Mercury314]

Maybe combine it with double production speed for Forge, Factory etc. That way it is easier to actually get those engineers. Maybe even free unlimited engineers?

 

[MqsTout]

Unlimited engineers would be, whoa. Too much. In searching around, I've seen a lot of proposals for making Industrious "+1 hammer to tiles that already produce 3" (like financial, but harder to trigger), and they say they've play-tested it to good conclusions. That would also let there be a useful Industrious/Philosophical leader -- although there'd be no +wonder production trait. I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing to be lacking.