I played on, if you have any thoughts and feedback on the previous turnset, it's still very much appreciated. Spoiler T145 - T190 : I played this rather late at the evening and did some mistakes that I know of, and others that I am probably unaware of! The GA that I pulled after killing wang was probably wasted, it was not enough to reach any new critical tech. I should probably have waited until my cities had recovered abit. I should have accepted a turn of revolt to get crucial civics instead. Last turnset, Zara had declared on me and Napoleon apparantly decied to join in on the fun. I took opportunity of this and sniped his stack once it was placed conveniently in neutral ground. Up north I had 10-15 trebs, but too few units (probably case system was a horrible mistake, I could have whipped more units up there. Once his stack was taken care of, and the killers moved north with some built reinforcements Napoleon folded after i took Orleans, the city of "Happy Nappy" and Paris. He was kind enough to place the reminder of his units outside of the old barbarian/wang city I had way up north. A city where I placed 4 longbowmen and whipped walls/castle. During the entire was they stood there, bombarding with a single catapult. At T164 Napoleon capitulated. I thought about gifting back paris, but it had hanging gardens so I kept it. The same turn he capitulated I started the second golden age. This time prioritizing research and not further GPerson generation. I managed to trade nationalism with zara and reach almost all the way to rifling. All my troops marched toward Pacal now, supplomented by a few knights. (Bad play, I should really have resupplied them much more.) After the GA, I saw it as my endgame plan to limp toward steel, while drafting a huge ammount of riflemen. Since we are creative I thought it would be good to get theatres and colosseums in place so I built them everywhere. This was just bad play on my part (it was getting late). Allthough theatres was a nice idea, I should not have built them first. The game wasn't stacked in such a way that there was time to slowly prepare like that. All cities started to produce trebs after theatres. Not sure if this was the best play, but the reasoning was that I would draft rifles and I needed something to complement that. At T172 (1120AD) I declared on Pacal. Next turn, Zara and Isabella was bribed on me. I think it is safe to say I was overstreched here. My army was outdated and to meager really. It was only because of Napoleons aid I managed to pull this of. Some knights were still built and moved up, and once rifling was in some few riflemen was sent to this front. The majority of all drafts and all trebs went to the south, in preparation for a push on that front. I had to bombard alot during the Pacal war and he reached Military Science and Steel too, and when I was standing outside mutal I had to continue to bombard even as Pacal attacked my stack with a few cannons. I lost half of my trebs when attacking, which was a pity. They where nice CR3 ones that I planned on upgrading. I should REALLY have resupplied that northern army earlier. And failed to do so at numerous occations. I lost quite a few units, and I think I can thank Napoleon which took a Pacal city of his own for getting war succes enough to get Pacal to capitulate. If he hadn't folded after Mutal I have had to make peace anyway. There was no way I could have gone further. Empire overview: Next step? Well... I'm still at war with Zara, and I have about 20 trebs and 10 riflemen at justinians borders. Probably way too many trebs, shouldn't have set ALL cities to build trebs. I think I overestimate how many rifles you get with drafting. But Zara has military science so it's probably a very bad idea to struggle toward him. It's probably best to go for Justinian directly, who is a much softer target. Not too concerned with tech, and I'll probably focus 100% on military once I have steel. If I can manage to get MT easy, the addition of cavalery might yield a quicker win.