@sampsa You read his mind!! Spoiler : I was going pedal to the metal with prets, and had Cathy as my target as she went for Hindu early (should have cost her) and she was boasting about her chariots and she wasn't in slavery. I was also saving Sulliman for later as I thought I would get T0 access to his city due to oracle culture. But when Sulliman all of the sudden discovered alphabet he got on my radar bigtime as he didn't have ironworking. Looking at EP, he is building something big. Two free T0 workers and a city guarded by one lone archer? Gotime! Ofcourse a pret dies at his 80% odds. 2951 is the cost of sabotage production. 108.333 is a magical constant number. 754 is the cost of support city revolt. Put them into the formula: 2951*108.333 / 754 = 424. And 424 is the number of hammers in the current build. Sulliman gets a ceasefire here, so he can finish pyramids for me. What a charming fellow! There was ONE axe, ONE sword and two archers in Istanbul. But my god they where tough. Revolt to police state somewhere after here. I'm not going to do anything but build prets untill I either go broke or win. I get peace for alfabet, but I get no trades from alfa though. Economy was going mayday mayday, thought I had to run my GProphet I got from oracle for a GA just to reach currency, then the charming lady who DoWed Charly (And I promptly piggybacked upon) gets her hand on some gardens failgold. This gets me to currency.