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Nobles' Club Bullpen: Fourth Cycle

Nobles' Club Bullpen: Fourth Cycle

  1. elitetroops

    elitetroops Chieftain

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    There are mods who can edit old posts. @dutchfire maybe can help?

    We should be able to find links to all the missing NCs by going back this thread..

    NC 177 Shaka
    NC 178 Napoleon
    NC 179 Qin
    NC 180 Hatty
    NC 181 Suleiman
    NC 182 Toku
    NC 183 Mansa Musa
    NC 184 Roosevelt
    NC 185 Suryavarman
    NC 186 Cyrus
    NC 187 Elizabeth
    NC 188 Genghis
    NC 189 Mao
    NC 190 Brennus
    NC 191 Frederick
    NC 192 Huayna Capac
    NC 193 Catherine
    NC 194 Ragnar
    NC 195 Asoka
    NC 196 Lincoln
    NC 197 Gilgamesh
    NC 198 Joao
    NC 199 Ramesses
    NC 200 Willem

    Found announcements and links to all in this thread, except NC 200... :nono:
     
  2. Fish Man

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    NC will be up sometime in the next hour or two after I figure out how to use cygwin..
     
  3. krikav

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  4. coanda

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    You know what's funny? I went poking around the game files and realized just how easy it is to get the game reading and writing barbarian techs in worldbuilder saves. It's not some deep game limitation preventing it. It's just that whoever wrote CvWBDesc.py naively thought that "for i in range(gc.getMAX_CIV_TEAMS()):" would cover every team. But that goes from 0 to gc.getMAX_CIV_TEAMS()-1, i.e. 0 to 17. The barbarian civ is on team gc.getMAX_CIV_TEAMS(), team 18.

    Changing line 1529 of CvWBDesc.py from "for i in range(gc.getMAX_CIV_TEAMS()):" to "for i in range(gc.getMAX_CIV_TEAMS() + 1):" makes the worldbuilder save information about barbarian techs (as well as other stuff, like civ contact and war status) to the .CivBeyondSwordWBSave file. Even with the information added, the file still can be loaded without errors by an original, un-edited CvWBDesc.py file - it just will skip over the barb information when reading.

    Then changing line 1622 to "for iTeamLoop in range(gc.getMAX_CIV_TEAMS() + 1): " and line 1794 to "for i in range(gc.getMAX_CIV_TEAMS() + 1):" makes it attempt to read the information for the barbarian team when loading WBSaves - although these changes are sketchier, as now the WB will not successfully load saves that don't contain barb-team information.

    If only those six additional characters - three additional "+1" - had been included in the game initially.
     
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  5. Olafeson

    Olafeson Chieftain

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    K. Did not understand a single word you wrote. But as long as barbs start with archery and stuff eh i guess thats pretty dope and stuff. Noice. After looking confused at your text and hurting my brain, guess i am going to read some comics to relax and recover. Next lvl computer magician wizardry going on here.
     
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  6. Fish Man

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    @krikav : You can post the next NC for Churchill :thumbsup:. I got Mehmed down in time for Christmas afterwards.
     
  7. krikav

    krikav Theorycrafter

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    Time for a new NC map already?! I have just gotten time to start the alex one (great fun btw).
    No problem, will post in 8 hours or so.
     
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  8. Fish Man

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    Seemed like nobody really interested in playing (though apparently was wrong). But then again, maybe people are too busy playing/debating cookbooks :).
     
  9. krikav

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    I think the cookbooks take alot of focus from forum active players yes.
    NC201 Alex has been downloaded 32 times, so I think it's fair to say that the regular lurkers have approved. :)
     
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  10. krikav

    krikav Theorycrafter

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  11. MeowZeDung

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    I'm strongly considering getting some recording software and starting to let's play these. Is that something folks would be interested in watching?
     
  12. krikav

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    Well... watching civ4 letsplays is really a rather large time investment. I don't follow all of Lains plays either. I prioritize getting some playtime myself. :)
    I'll most likely check it out from time to time (especially starts) since I like NC quite alot.

    I do think it would be popular and helpful for the rather large lurking crowd too. (Each NC game is being downloaded 40-60 times, while we have 5-10 making comments on the forum.

    That, and also it's probably helpful for you!
     
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  13. MeowZeDung

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    I just ran a little test with the native windows game capture software on the XBox app. It slowed Civ (unmodded new game) waaaaaaaaaay down and wasn't capturing audio even though my settings allow for it. I'm not sure if the slowdown is because I don't have a great PC, or the recording software itself. I couldn't imagine playing a full game that slowly modded and with multiple cities, switching between overlays, then going back to do post commentary. Looks like I'll have to explore other options and maybe get a mic.

    If there's anyone here with experience or technical prowess in these matters, please do tell. Modern technology has never quite been my forte. It's probably part of the reason I play a game where you have to research things like agriculture, the wheel, and writing every game :lol:
     
  14. Fish Man

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    The next NC will be out either New Years or New Years Eve (depending on where you live). Featuring...Mehmed Moneybags :commerce::commerce::commerce:!
     
  15. krikav

    krikav Theorycrafter

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  16. krikav

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    Is it Monty or Augustus next?
     
  17. Amao

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    Undefeatable mentioned that AC was next.
     
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  18. krikav

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    Bump!! :)
     
  19. krikav

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    @Undefeatable How is that Augustus game going?
    You want me to drop in the monty one as a intermezzo while you plot a devious challenge condition? :)
     
  20. Fish Man

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    Nah it's good I'll get it up sometime in the near future. Just been going thru some...stuff lately, I suppose.
     

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