Discussion in 'Rhye's and Fall - Dawn of Civilization' started by Leoreth, Jul 7, 2013.
Vienna 1W would put it 1N1E of the Alps, which is pretty much where it is in reality.
That's fine - 1NE of the Alps is where it is on the map you've posted in the first post. I thought people were suggesting to move it even further west, which would mean Vienna would only exist to cramp Frankfurt, and not to be a major city in its own right.
If Vienna appears where it is on the map on page one (on the hill with coal), Budapest goes on the oil, and the oil moves one tile SE then I think that would be just about perfect for Northern Europe. And there would still be a bit of space for Venice and maybe even Ragusa on the copper in the south, helping to fill the Balkans out a bit more. Having both Budapest and Ragusa in the Balkans would be more interesting, gameplay wise, imo.
Oh, sorry for the miscommunication. The map that I have posted shows Vienna already moved 1W from its original spot.
Map looks nice on the SVN, Leoreth. Greenlanders still despise you though =P
Great changes. Now Leningrad is a worthful place.
About this, I notice that in 1700 scenario, Russian starting message says: "the foundation of Sankt-Peterburg secured a window to the east for Russia."
I think you meant "a window to the west".
Link to video.
Is it one the lastest SVN already ?
Stop with the juxtaposition of civilized and sophisticated DoC and ponies.
I'd like to know as well...
Yes, last SVN update expanded Europe.
Interesting improvements. I know how everyone is jabbing about historical accuracy, but it seems no one covered this: Copenhagen is mainly placed in its current location because of massive schools of Herring fish in the oresund strait(the strait between zealand and scania). So maybe place the fish resource there?
Already back in 1300 they would export 300.000 barrels of Herring, I mean, this was by far the biggest export of Denmark.
My only source is in Danish, sorry for that already
Other then that, looking forward to play the new version
The main consideration for placing food resources is not only accuracy (of habitats or food industries), but also the resulting size of the affected cities. And I think Copenhagen is already capable of reaching quite the size.
Alright, well, what difference would it make to place it 1SE of copenhagen, that way, hamburg and copenhagen still both get it, like you wanted
And people: enough with the supercities, all the ingame supercities, are supercities because they cover several nations (like Amiens covering France and the Netherlands). The earlier discussed supercity of Amsterdam+1NE would require the destruction of hamburg. Please, netherlands + north germany + northsea resources, would IRL be an insane city.
1NE of Amsterdam is not possible because of Hamburg, destroying Hamburg changes everything and your not going for realism anymore. Just like Amiens without Paris, Frankfurt and Amsterdam, would represent a huge part of western europe.
And BTW, great improvements on Scandinavia. They were too powerful before with all their grassland, this really limits them a lot better
Would it be possible to actually get the Vikings to settle Copenhagen on the 3000 BC start? I have never, ever seen that city on 3000 BC (except when I'm playing as them, of course).
I occasionally see them build it in 600 AD, but don't know enough 3000 BC games past that date. Shouldn't it be the same there?
They never build it. Not sure why. Maybe because of leftover barbarians?
Perhaps Germany could get settler map on Denmark.
That's very possible.
I've loaded up a couple of 600 AD starts with the new map, and each time the Vikings opted to settle Jelling (1SW) instead of Copenhagen. I know you said you haven't adjusted the stability maps and cores yet, does the settler map also need to be adjusted? Or perhaps Jelling is a better city from the perspective of the AI than Copenhagen, maybe due to the rivers and the fact that this tile is a chokepoint. (Does the AI even consider military strategy when placing cities?)
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