Obama defacto legalizes pot

[Core Imposter]

President Obama says recreational users of marijuana in states that have legalized the substance should not be a "top priority" of federal law enforcement officials prosecuting the war on drugs.

"We've got bigger fish to fry," Obama said of pot users in Colorado and Washington during an exclusive interview with ABC News' Barbara Walters.

"It would not make sense for us to see a top priority as going after recreational users in states that have determined that it's legal," he said, invoking the same approach taken toward users of medicinal marijuana in 18 states where it's legal.

"This is a tough problem, because Congress has not yet changed the law," Obama said. "I head up the executive branch; we're supposed to be carrying out laws. And so what we're going to need to have is a conversation about, How do you reconcile a federal law that still says marijuana is a federal offense and state laws that say that it's legal?"

For breaking his oath to enforce the laws and for thumbing his nose at the authority of the people's Congress the remedies are impeachment, prosecution and imprisonment. I'd like to see the military remove him forthwith. Treason is treason.

 

[ace99]

He said that about medical marijuana, but then had the Justice Department crack down on pot dispensaries in California and shut some of the largest ones down. I hardly take him at his word, also changing the priority of enforcement isn't the same thing as not enforcing.

 

[Phrossack]

This is one of the many reasons that nobody takes you seriously.

 

[Formaldehyde]

It may come as a shock to some that, with the exception of a few backward areas in a few backward states, marijuana hasn't been a "top priority" for law enforcement for many decades now. That it is really just used to harass blacks and other minorities who are suspected of committing other crimes. It is primarily used "to get them into the system" so they have criminal records, and can then be legally profiled.

Marijuana legalization is much like gay marriage. It is only a matter of time before it is completely legal in all 50 states.

 

[LightSpectra]

It is much like gay marriage. It is only a matter of time before it is completely legal in all 50 states.

Gay marriage is legal in all 50 states. You won't get any sort of fine or criminal charge for declaring in some function or another that you're married to another person of the same gender.

Honestly I think comparing people who legitimately and possibly desperately need marijuana for treatment to people that want a piece of paper saying they're married is both a red herring and a slimy debate tactic, but suit yourself.

 

[Crezth]

Gay marriage is legal in all 50 states. You won't get any sort of fine or criminal charge for declaring in some function or another that you're married to another person of the same gender.

Nope, that's not how that works.

 

[ace99]

Honestly I think comparing people who legitimately and possibly desperately need marijuana for treatment to people that want a piece of paper saying they're married is both a red herring and a slimy debate tactic, but suit yourself.

A piece of paper that comes with 1,138 benefits, rights and protections provided on the basis of marital status in Federal law. So you're right, gay marriage is much more important than marijuana.

Is this really the new conservative attack line?

 

[Formaldehyde]

Gay marriage is legal in all 50 states. You won't get any sort of fine or criminal charge for declaring in some function or another that you're married to another person of the same gender.

Honestly I think comparing people who legitimately and possibly desperately need marijuana for treatment to people that want a piece of paper saying they're married is both a red herring and a slimy debate tactic, but suit yourself.

I don't want to turn this into yet another gay marriage thread, but you apparently don't even know that it is now only legal in 9 states.

The only reason I brought it up in this context is that Obama has also decided not to enforce DOMA for quite similar reasons as well. That it is essentially the same group which vehemently opposes the legalization of marijuana as they do the legalization of SSM. It is primarily the reactionary "Christian right" "law and order" element in this country, which continue to use their own narrow-minded religious beliefs to try to tell everybody else how to live their own lives.

But it is no surprise at all that you are again engaging in an obvious personal attack, instead of even trying to argue the issues. That it is a "slimy debate tactic" which you frequently employ with those who merely disagree with your own personal opinions.

 

[LightSpectra]

Nope, that's not how that works.

It is, actually. Anybody who claims that same-sex marriage is a right that's being denied to people are fiddling with the diction to turn it into an issue that it's not.

You can see though how Formie subtly derailed the thread with the comparison, so I won't speak any more about that.

A piece of paper that comes with 1,138 benefits, rights and protections provided on the basis of marital status in Federal law. So you're right, gay marriage is much more important than marijuana.

The same benefits that don't belong to anybody else that doesn't say they're married.

 

[Borachio]

A piece of paper that comes with 1,138 benefits, rights and protections provided on the basis of marital status in Federal law. So you're right, gay marriage is much more important than marijuana.

Is this really the new conservative attack line?

On the one hand I'm inclined to agree. But on the other, marriage has not been used to alleviate suffering in any case I've heard of.

 

[ace99]

On the one hand I'm inclined to agree. But on the other, marriage has not been used to alleviate suffering in any case I've heard of.

Sounds like you speak from experience.

 

[warpus]

"This is a tough problem, because Congress has not yet changed the law," Obama said. "I head up the executive branch; we're supposed to be carrying out laws. And so what we're going to need to have is a conversation about, How do you reconcile a federal law that still says marijuana is a federal offense and state laws that say that it's legal?"

Duh?

Shouldn't this have been thought about years ago, when it first came up? It seems like what he's saying is coming years late.

 

[Formaldehyde]

You can see though how Formie subtly derailed the thread with the comparison, so I won't speak any more about that.

Only I did nothing of the sort, while you clearly did by engaging in yet another absurd personal attack. How "Lightie" does this quite frequently, instead of even trying to discuss the issues.

Duh?

Shouldn't this have been thought about years ago, when it first came up? It seems like what he's saying is coming years late.

Not to mention basic common sense.

 

[Borachio]

Sounds like you speak from experience.

:chuckle: You're so right! But I wasn't thinking of that.

Marriage is a three ring circus. Engagement ring, wedding ring, and suffering.

 

[hobbsyoyo]

It is, actually. Anybody who claims that same-sex marriage is a right that's being denied to people are fiddling with the diction to turn it into an issue that it's not.

So says the crowd that wants nothing but to continue denying that right.

It's not even a right guyz!

Let's pass a law saying you can never get married and see how you feel about it then.

 

[peter grimes]

@op: you need to look up the legal definition of treason. It doesn't mean anything like the way you're using it here.

Hint: calling it a War On Drugs does not mean this is treason.

 

[JollyRoger]

We are denying marijuana to everyone detained in FEMA Camps except for the gay couples. Camp personnel can accept drugs or Sorosbucks as compensation.

 

[civver_764]

I think the US government should send everybody a free bag of weed as compensation for prohibition.

 

[Crezth]

It is, actually. Anybody who claims that same-sex marriage is a right that's being denied to people are fiddling with the diction to turn it into an issue that it's not.

I think perhaps you don't understand how civil contracts work. You can declare yourself "married" in the same way you can declare yourself a "veteran" or "tax-exempt," and that's all well-and-good by itself, but unfortunately it isn't very useful without being afforded some measure of government recognition. And it's a matter of fact that only 9 state governments recognize gay marriage according to the legal parameters of the phrase.

 

[ComradeDavo]

For breaking his oath to enforce the laws and for thumbing his nose at the authority of the people's Congress the remedies are impeachment, prosecution and imprisonment. I'd like to see the military remove him forthwith. Treason is treason.

If you are advocating the removal of a democratically elected president by the military, clearly you do not believe in democracy yourself.

MisterCooper is an enemy of Democracy!!!!!!!