Hello everyone. I'm a long time Civ 4 player and a DoC addict probably from one of the first version. I never attempt any historical victory cause i'm a maniac who always think long-term game and i hate to see my civ collapse. I attempted many weird challenge before: my favourite one was an England/America Eco-Fascist Society where i did'nt cut trees and made war to everyone who were cutting them, protecting Amazonia, Congo, North America and North Eurasia, but that's another story...
I already tried One city Challenge before; i only once made it to the end with Rome/France but i had to go world builder to erase Paris the AI made, so it wasn't satisfying for me. (I am very superstitious about the world builder: why have they to ask if i am sure to open it every time?! So i don't in legit saves)
I tried some other, like China Luoyang were AI America cheated and completed the space race before me (i have proof! this game has soul!) Had some plan for England or Japan too. But i did'nt play many years and i just recently came back to test new features.
When i saw in custom game that you can have OCC and build as many wonders as you want, i thought that it was the right time to do another attempt.
Monarch Epic one city agressive AI and no technology brokering. Maybe other settings could be right too because it was not that difficult. Just thought that if AI gave away too much tech it could be hard. And the real tough challenge would be in Emperor.
I made many tests and understood that city still flip back in your core area when rising so i had little choice to make a true one city.
I first tried to build Rome with Greece in order to settle 2 great scientist and improve the terrain but find out that you are defeated when your only city flip to roman. I also had Melpum/Mediolanum issue so i founded my greek city in northern italy (Aquilea) to raze it with roman after. It was dumb because the city flipped anyway and i had to wait for a Celt to raze it.
Still, the save was good: Only Pyramids and Oracle were built so i decided to begin from there.
It gave me the idea that if i destroy the other civilization it would gave me the possibility to build more wonders, so... that was what greeks did! Crushing Egyptian till collapse, destroying Babylone and Phoenician leaving from the original stack only one dreadful Hoplite waiting at the gate of Persia to quench his blood thirst.
After tidying the ancient World it was time for another city to raise and fulfill her destiny: becoming the Largest Metropolis ever...
I did'nt choose to settle Rome after a long thinking. It was a heartbreaker not to settle near a river, no +2 health, no levee, no Golden Gate and no Delta Works!!! But with the crabs, wine and rice spawning later, i thought it was the good choice to settle Pisae that i rename Qwizåryåh after.
My plan was simple i just wanted to make the more wonders i could, settle the more GP i could and vassalizing some European civ to have strategic ressources later.
I was planning to win the Space Race. It would probably have been possible but i had to reload long ago and i was happy with a time victory for this game.
It was a bit messy beginning with this second city annoying my wish of a true One City, but Celts destroyed it pretty fast.
I actually don't have much to speak about this early game. I destroyed Carthaginian right in beginning, leaving me alone in Mediterranea. It was just madness to build almost every Classical Wonders and i was repeating myself that it was too easy and something gonna turn wrong but it did'nt.
Very Quiet World... In a way it still is Mare Nostrum...
A consequences i didn't expect about this loneliness is that i didn't get Justinian Plague in late classical era... No trade routes, no plague from East. And a city growing till the 14th century Black Death.
I already made a roman late game, so it was easy to deal with barbarians with minimum troops. Most of history i was just building building building...
I had to reload once in this period because orthodoxy spread to fast to my city and i didn't complete some important pagan wonders. I didn't have time for some important orthodox wonders tho, so i don't know what would have been better.
I asked myself how i could be the triple Christian holy city but drop the idea because it seems too uncertain. If someone want to speak about it i'm interested...
However i became Catholic and Protestant holy city so it was enough to me.
I was on monarchy vassalage manorialism redistribution monasticism for a long time. Adopted republic when i could build national theater in medieval era.
Centralism asap of course. Central planning in late game. Tributaries, isolationism and multilateralism when it was the right time.
When European Civ spawned i was not that far in tech and because i was filthy rich, i could afford to buy a lot of tech. I never use spy in this game but i read here that it could worth it.
In 11th century i took my pretorian stack, veterans from barbarian wars, and vassalized HRE, France, Spain. Had to raze some city for them to obey me and almost collapse from this but i recovered.
I then vassalize Holland and Prussia. And all of them stayed my loyal vassal because i treated them good.
I wanted to vassalize England and Russia as well but i was too late, their empire too big and i could'nt do it without razing many cities and therefor collapse. So i just weakened them twice in history to be safe.
It's hard to vassalize civ with only one city they really need to be rock bottom down to accept it.
I don't know what more i can tell. I was surprised how easy it was. I just discover very late that i wouldn't have time for the space race. So i keep growing the city and planning war to America if they wanted to contend my victory. (i had to reload because they beat me last turn for some point. Just asked them to change civics the last turn and i won by time)
So that's the city in 2020. Never thought it could be that big but with appropriate wonders and civics you can do magics... It could have been bigger if i did'nt try space race and focus on even more growing.
I had gems and silver that spawn with events during history. Not really needed but still nice.
You said specialist economy?
Almost 650 millions people... Really it's possible to do bigger...
So that's it... I hope you enjoyed this little story of mine. Sorry for my mediocre english, i'm french and i don't write english often. If you want me to detail some specific point i would gladly do it, just ask.
I already tried One city Challenge before; i only once made it to the end with Rome/France but i had to go world builder to erase Paris the AI made, so it wasn't satisfying for me. (I am very superstitious about the world builder: why have they to ask if i am sure to open it every time?! So i don't in legit saves)
I tried some other, like China Luoyang were AI America cheated and completed the space race before me (i have proof! this game has soul!) Had some plan for England or Japan too. But i did'nt play many years and i just recently came back to test new features.
When i saw in custom game that you can have OCC and build as many wonders as you want, i thought that it was the right time to do another attempt.
Monarch Epic one city agressive AI and no technology brokering. Maybe other settings could be right too because it was not that difficult. Just thought that if AI gave away too much tech it could be hard. And the real tough challenge would be in Emperor.
I made many tests and understood that city still flip back in your core area when rising so i had little choice to make a true one city.
I first tried to build Rome with Greece in order to settle 2 great scientist and improve the terrain but find out that you are defeated when your only city flip to roman. I also had Melpum/Mediolanum issue so i founded my greek city in northern italy (Aquilea) to raze it with roman after. It was dumb because the city flipped anyway and i had to wait for a Celt to raze it.
Still, the save was good: Only Pyramids and Oracle were built so i decided to begin from there.
It gave me the idea that if i destroy the other civilization it would gave me the possibility to build more wonders, so... that was what greeks did! Crushing Egyptian till collapse, destroying Babylone and Phoenician leaving from the original stack only one dreadful Hoplite waiting at the gate of Persia to quench his blood thirst.
After tidying the ancient World it was time for another city to raise and fulfill her destiny: becoming the Largest Metropolis ever...
I did'nt choose to settle Rome after a long thinking. It was a heartbreaker not to settle near a river, no +2 health, no levee, no Golden Gate and no Delta Works!!! But with the crabs, wine and rice spawning later, i thought it was the good choice to settle Pisae that i rename Qwizåryåh after.
My plan was simple i just wanted to make the more wonders i could, settle the more GP i could and vassalizing some European civ to have strategic ressources later.
I was planning to win the Space Race. It would probably have been possible but i had to reload long ago and i was happy with a time victory for this game.
It was a bit messy beginning with this second city annoying my wish of a true One City, but Celts destroyed it pretty fast.
I actually don't have much to speak about this early game. I destroyed Carthaginian right in beginning, leaving me alone in Mediterranea. It was just madness to build almost every Classical Wonders and i was repeating myself that it was too easy and something gonna turn wrong but it did'nt.
Very Quiet World... In a way it still is Mare Nostrum...
A consequences i didn't expect about this loneliness is that i didn't get Justinian Plague in late classical era... No trade routes, no plague from East. And a city growing till the 14th century Black Death.
I already made a roman late game, so it was easy to deal with barbarians with minimum troops. Most of history i was just building building building...
I had to reload once in this period because orthodoxy spread to fast to my city and i didn't complete some important pagan wonders. I didn't have time for some important orthodox wonders tho, so i don't know what would have been better.
I asked myself how i could be the triple Christian holy city but drop the idea because it seems too uncertain. If someone want to speak about it i'm interested...
However i became Catholic and Protestant holy city so it was enough to me.
I was on monarchy vassalage manorialism redistribution monasticism for a long time. Adopted republic when i could build national theater in medieval era.
Centralism asap of course. Central planning in late game. Tributaries, isolationism and multilateralism when it was the right time.
When European Civ spawned i was not that far in tech and because i was filthy rich, i could afford to buy a lot of tech. I never use spy in this game but i read here that it could worth it.
In 11th century i took my pretorian stack, veterans from barbarian wars, and vassalized HRE, France, Spain. Had to raze some city for them to obey me and almost collapse from this but i recovered.
I then vassalize Holland and Prussia. And all of them stayed my loyal vassal because i treated them good.
I wanted to vassalize England and Russia as well but i was too late, their empire too big and i could'nt do it without razing many cities and therefor collapse. So i just weakened them twice in history to be safe.
It's hard to vassalize civ with only one city they really need to be rock bottom down to accept it.
I don't know what more i can tell. I was surprised how easy it was. I just discover very late that i wouldn't have time for the space race. So i keep growing the city and planning war to America if they wanted to contend my victory. (i had to reload because they beat me last turn for some point. Just asked them to change civics the last turn and i won by time)
So that's the city in 2020. Never thought it could be that big but with appropriate wonders and civics you can do magics... It could have been bigger if i did'nt try space race and focus on even more growing.
I had gems and silver that spawn with events during history. Not really needed but still nice.
You said specialist economy?
Almost 650 millions people... Really it's possible to do bigger...
So that's it... I hope you enjoyed this little story of mine. Sorry for my mediocre english, i'm french and i don't write english often. If you want me to detail some specific point i would gladly do it, just ask.
