OK, ConanConQ goes SID... u may laugh

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ConanConQ

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Maybe the DemiGod victory went straight to my head, but I decided to have a go at the Sid level myself.
Especially SirPlebs :worship: article on the Sid level gave me some encouragement, so.......... lets rock !

of course, I chose mostly the same configuration as him. Namely

Civ : Iroquois

Opps :
America, Egypt, Aztec, Maya, Inca, Mongols, Zulu and the Chinese.

The only thing I changed from his setting was the size of the map. I am just not patient enough to wait for 5 minutes between turns. I chose Large instead.

After, lets say, 50 restarts :undecide: I finally ended up with a fairly decent location :thanx:. Of course, not ideal as usual, but I was left alone because I was the only civ on the island. At first I though it would be a short game. But as I played, I felt that I had never expanded more rapidly in my entire life. This gave me a hope that maybe I could reach Philosophy first. Then go for the GL, like SirPleb :worship: and follow his line of play.

Well... to no avail.

I did NOT get a free tech once I reached Phil :wallbash: so I thought, THATS IT. But then, a saviour came, The Incas... poor bastards. They accepted a tradeoff for writing and philosophy. I just about got all the ancient techs. So.. it gave me a little hope. I could get my UU's up and running, get golden age and.... However, I did NOT have horses.

Hmmmm.. no horses I say ?

I was pretty much stuck, cus the only expansion-path laid in the direction of the chinese, and those were the only ones I could trade horses with. And so I did, and it cost me dearly/./ something like 68 gpt. However, I was lucky that the Aztecs offered me 118 gpt for Iron. I had furs too, so it helped me a with another 30 gpt.

That was how I stranded on my island for decades, centuries :king: amassing my army to kick chinas rear end. They had been fighting the egyptians over an island to the east. Fortunately they razed the cities they captured, so I hurried over with my mighty Mounted horsemen. I guess I had something like 35 of them as I crossed the channel. :hammer:

The war was a HUGE success.. I couldnt believe it at first, I razed city after city and repopulated them with my own settlers. Thinking.. WOW, is this as hard as it is going to get ??

I threw each and every chinese on the sea, only allowing the Aztecs to have 3 cities on the island. Why I did not throw them off as well ?
Lemme tell u.,, I was fighting with mounted warriors, they were present with CAVALRY!! SIGH...so, it wasnt going to be a walk in the park after all.

I looked further to the east, a bigger island covered by the Egyptians. I thought if I were to have a chance at all, I had to strike fast. My production was severely hampered, cus I had mostly reached my limit. Besides, during the war with the chinese, I was unable to build more MW's. :mad:

Deep inside me, I felt it was going to be disappointed with this campaign. I shipped over my army once again to bring doom to the Egyptians. Once I got over, in 2 shipments, the Egyptian army was amassed in front of me because I had to make 2 shipments, which alerted them of the coming blow. I had some catapults as well... heeeheee.

OK, so there I was, with the HUGE army of mine, with little or nothing to protect the rest of my Monarcy. Stranded once again, in a final attempt for world souvreignty. Faced with....

OH MY GOD !!!!

I saw him move troops into the city, the preferences were set to not animate enemy movements, but only to show them, it still took 6-7 seconds for him to move them all into the city. Wish I could count that fast!! In addition, 2 more stacks were approaching my target city, and they were all within striking distance of MY army.

There was little choice. My MW's would be slaughtered like water breaking on rocks. He had pikemen and some musketmen defending his longbowmen and his medieval infantry.

OK, it was time to admit I was too weak. What were my options? :suicide:
Ask for peace.. except, they had no intension of even talking to me as I refused to leave their shores after the first shipment of .. inclined to use the word "cannonfodder" So.. could retreat of course, but I only had the capacity to carry half the army back across the straight of doom. Of course, I wasnt going to lay down and die, I would die with the banners flying high first, and THEN retreat IF I was not successful with my first half of the army.

Needless to say, I didnt even make a dent in the size 12 city. He didnt lose a single pikeman.

If u want to see my status so far, u can go to
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/
and check out ConanConQ 1, 2 and 3.


I tried adding screenshots to this thread but found myself incompetent. Advice on how to direct the pointer correctly to the upload7 address will be appreciated.

Any feedback on how BAD it looks, how stupid I must have played or how heroic I seem to have fought will be accepted with joy.
Hold nothing back :) Should I quit or is there hope ?

Thanks all !!
 
Originally posted by ConanConQ
If u want to see my status so far, u can go to
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/
and check out ConanConQ 1, 2 and 3.


I tried adding screenshots to this thread but found myself incompetent. Advice on how to direct the pointer correctly to the upload7 address will be appreciated.

In order to link directly to the image you need to include the full path including the file name. So to link to ConanConQ2.JPG the URL will be..

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads7/ConanConQ2.JPG

This will then link directly to the image as an link. If you want to include the picture in your post then firstly, upload the image to the directory, then when you want to put in your post, click the
 
so, there u have the screenshots...
The army overview shows the remains of my army after I lost HALF of it in Egypt... the Egyptians terrorised my Galleys as if they were bearers of the black plague. (well, in a sense they were.. :lol:

U see from the powergraph that I was doing fairly well at a time, being more powerful than all, except the 2-3 major civs...

I can still go on playing the game and last for as long as I can, probably LOSE and get a decent score. By the way, do we HAVE to win to be on the HOF ?

well guys... I wanna know how I fared.. BAD or WORSE ?
 
Originally posted by ConanConQ
By the way, do we HAVE to win to be on the HOF ?
Just for sheer giggles and curiousity I posed this very question to Aeson once (I think it's somewhere in the rules thread). The stated current answer is yes, you have to win the game.
 
Thanks super and slug... (love your scizo thread.. it is brilliant in fact)

you forgot to tell me what u thought of my Sid game though :(
 
Originally posted by ConanConQ
Thanks super and slug... (love your scizo thread.. it is brilliant in fact)
I had fun writing as them, I'll probably go back to that for my next game.

Originally posted by ConanConQ
you forgot to tell me what u thought of my Sid game though :(
I think I've got my ass handed to me on a silver platter every time I've tried the level and I hate the guts of anyone who actually has half a chance of competing on that difficulty. :cry: :lol: :eek: :p :mischief:







In all seriousness, I salute you for playing the level. Given that we've seen so few threads about Sid here in the HoF, I really don't know enough about the level to venture opinions. Remember, I'm hip deep in Monarch right now!
 
Originally posted by ConanConQ
I can still go on playing the game and last for as long as I can, probably LOSE and get a decent score. By the way, do we HAVE to win to be on the HOF ?
This is a very GOOD and interesting question which Aeson (The Boss) will have to make the final decision on. Here's my 3 sense worth:

1. Many of the HOF Tables are empty or have less than 10 submissions, so why not allow losses, ESPECIALLY if the Tables are listed by SCORE? (A High-Scoring Loss, especially on Sid Level is credit-worthy IMHO!)
2. The word LOSS is available to be used on the HOF Submissions Page! :)
3. It would encourage more people to play AND submit HOF games..........Let's face it: You can learn MORE by losing than by winning a game! :)

So, WHY NOT? :)

P.s. Excluding the Highest Score Tables (ANY Victory Condition Per Map Size), should the Tables be listed by Score OR Finish Date? :)
 
I'm impressed by your success so far. For future reference if you want to play large worlds you only need 6 AI opponents to be elligible for the HOF. It would make winning your game much easier.
 
Originally posted by Svar
For future reference if you want to play large worlds you only need 6 AI opponents to be elligible for the HOF. It would make winning your game much easier.

Gosh darnit....

I wonder what the outcome would have been with only 6 opponents. Hard to tell really.. I might have taken longer to even meet someone to trade the techs I had with.. and then I would REALLY be in trouble.

But anyway, I didnt know (as usual) that I only needed 6 AI's. Thank you for letting me know :goodjob:
 
Originally posted by EMan



3. It would encourage more people to play AND submit HOF games..........Let's face it: You can learn MORE by losing than by winning a game! :)

So, WHY NOT? :)

P.s. Excluding the Highest Score Tables (ANY Victory Condition Per Map Size), should the Tables be listed by Score OR Finish Date? :)

I agree totally... Submissions recorded as losses should definately count. Just that you lost does not mean you did not make a worthy attempt. Imagine if you have been playing a sid level for 3 weeks, then some Civ gets the United Nations, and you lose to some other Civ. I dont think rules would allow you to reload and try again at an earier time and do something radical to prevent this. Anyway, it is horrible to see these 3 weeks of your life not even worth a small notice on the HoF just so the world knows "at least this guy made an effort"

Let us losers have a go on the HoF as well :) at least let us get on SOME losing game list.. pls pls pls pls :cringe:
 
Originally posted by ConanConQ
:suicide:
Ask for peace.. except, they had no intension of even talking to me as I refused to leave their shores after the first shipment of .. inclined to use the word "cannonfodder" So.. could retreat of course, but I only had the capacity to carry half the army back across the straight of doom. Of course, I wasnt going to lay down and die, I would die with the banners flying high first, and THEN retreat IF I was not successful with my first half of the army.

Needless to say, I didnt even make a dent in the size 12 city. He didnt lose a single pikeman.

Well, I see one major mistake right there in your landing parties!;) Next time, remember to pack along a settler. When the going get tough, you can just simply use your settler to open a town portal or a dimensional door (kind of like a stargate as in Stargate SG1) for your entire army to escape to safety.

One of the essential rules for enagement: All invasion force must be escorted by at least one settler.:D
 
Originally posted by EMan
This is a very GOOD and interesting question which Aeson (The Boss) will have to make the final decision on.
With only two years to go before Civ4, we'll never get the tables filled, so why not let in losses that score enough points? Given how difficult Sid is turning out to be, I do hope Aeson changes his mind on the win precondition. For godsake, Sir Pleb isn't sure he'll win (although I think he'll pull through).

Originally posted by EMan
P.s. Excluding the Highest Score Tables (ANY Victory Condition Per Map Size), should the Tables be listed by Score OR Finish Date? :)
:confused: Um, score. This isn't just the Hall of Fame, it's the High Score Hall of Fame, right?
 
Originally posted by ConanConQ
Let us losers have a go on the HoF as well :) at least let us get on SOME losing game list.. pls pls pls pls :cringe:
You shouldn't really adopt a loser mentality. I also don't think there should be a loser list. Aeson could just list "Loss" in the win condition line...

Oh, and I do have one question, have you read everything in the War Academy yet?

Originally posted by Moonsinger
One of the essential rules for enagement: All invasion force must be escorted by at least one settler.
Something of an understatement from you considering your artillery article isn't it?
:lol: :rotfl: :lol:
:lol: :rotfl: :lol:
 
Originally posted by superslug
Something of an understatement from you considering your artillery article isn't it?

Actually, it has nothing to do with my artillery article at all. Basically, in this case, he has no way of getting all his troops off the enemy island safely. Even if he has enough ships, it's still very risky to return all of them home safely. Now, if he has a settler in his invasion force, he would simply open a portal to instantly send all his troops safely back to his home capital - exactly what I previously said! (It has nothing to do with artillery at all - since he doesn't even have knights, it would be silly to talk about cannons or artilleries, wouldn't it?;)).
 
For the record, since no one has asked me to explain about this portal technology, I assume you're all already know how to use it.
 
You're right, Moonsinger, I was seriously misunderstanding you, but I get it now. If things go bad, back the forces into the city, gift the city to any AI and all the units inside said town reappear in your capitol safely back on the mainland. Escape route in a can...

EDIT: In regards to the artillery article, I was specifically referencing Settler creeping, which can be used with or without artillery...
 
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