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Oklahoma legislature overrides veto of abortion restriction bill, becomes worst state

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by sumit1207, Apr 27, 2010.

  1. Neonanocyborgasm

    Neonanocyborgasm Deity

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    What a horrible position to put doctors in practice in Oklahoma! It's bad enough that ob-gyn's can hardly earn a living with malpractice insurance premiums being equal to their earnings. Now they also have to contend with the possibility of being arrested for telling patients the truth. I don't even know what they can expect from an ultrasound of an embryo before 4 weeks. All you can see there is a couple of concentric circles. Is this supposed to sway someone?

    If this law isn't overturned, my prediction is that obstetrics as a practice will hardly exist in Oklahoma.
     
  2. emzie

    emzie wicked witch of the North

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    Could a doctor get in trouble with an ethics board if he or she actively lied to a patient about abortion options, even with this state law?
     
  3. Kraznaya

    Kraznaya Princeps

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    So a majority can oppress a minority if it's "theirs?"

    Which is why the men of the Oklahoman legislature overrode the veto, right? :rolleyes:
     
  4. FriendlyFire

    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    There not banning Abortions you have to pay for an Ultrasound and listern to some pro-life stuff before proceeding.
     
  5. warpus

    warpus In pork I trust

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    The people who made this happen should follow their logic through and mandate it so that every pregnant woman in the state has to watch a video of teenage prostitutes doing drugs in back alleys and whoring themselves out to overweight balding guys before they are allowed to give birth.

    Then again I'm a bit tired so maybe my assessment of the situation is incomplete.
     
  6. FriendlyFire

    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    Urhhhh, This is a good thing ?

     
  7. ParkCungHee

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    As well as the argument for not euthenizing the ********.
     
  8. JollyRoger

    JollyRoger Slippin' Jimmy Supporter

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    Of course there's no rape or incest clause. That's normal procreation in Oklahoma.
     
  9. Disgustipated

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    I'm not defending the male politicians. I hate all politicians. If anything I'm saying male politicians have no right to dictate what a woman does with her body. I'm mainly talking about males on this forum. I think it's silly to discuss a women's issue.
     
  10. aimeeandbeatles

    aimeeandbeatles watermelon

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    I would dare any man who thinks pregnancy is just an "inconvinience" to put a huge bean-bag on his stomach and not remove it and take some sort of nausea drug every day for 9 months.
     
  11. bhsup

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    I'll never define it that way. I've had this discussion with others before and I'll stand by my answer that I've given before. If I owned a 'Data' from Star Trek, I would have no more of a problem putting a bullet into his positronic net than I would putting a bullet into a toaster. They're both just machines.
     
  12. Dawgphood001

    Dawgphood001 The Professional Poster

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    Well, this is failtastic.
     
  13. Neonanocyborgasm

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    Ethics boards exist in most hospitals and other medical institutions. They generally have only advisory power, and cannot compel any action.

    I don't think any medical society would take action against a physician who was following the law, even a dysfunctional law, but I would expect medical societies to issue some sort of statement in response to these laws. One medical society is called ACOG (American Congress of Obstetrics and Gynecology) that has great influence and power among its members. I would expect them to issue a statement soon.
     
  14. Formaldehyde

    Formaldehyde Both Fair And Balanced

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    Florida Republicans ram copycat ultrasound theater legislation down the throats of their constituents on the last day of the session:

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/politi...-abortion-measure-now-headed-to-crist/1091746

    I just hope Crist will veto it as a real "rogue" Republican.

     
  15. bhsup

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    Well crap. I don't tend to like to interfere with other State elections, but I hope Crist gets his butt kicked in the election now. Kinda crappy of a governor to not want to impose his will to stop murder.
     
  16. Formaldehyde

    Formaldehyde Both Fair And Balanced

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    Unlike many of the far-right, I guess he doesn't think it is "murder" instead of a choice every woman should have.

    That's also the main reason why the Republicans no longer want to have anything to do with him. He actually votes his conscience instead of how ultraconservatives expect him to block vote. Imagine that? A Republican nowadays who actually thinks he has free will instead of being forced to pander to the least common denominator.
     
  17. bhsup

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    Yeah, like the choice Pol Pot had regarding his adoring subjects.
     
  18. Formaldehyde

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    After all, everybody knows a conservative Republican governor who previously had a career as a DA is just like him. :lol:
     
  19. emzie

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    Oh come on, you DID watch the re-imagined BSG, right?! Such absolutism is impossible.

    There is no way you can ever know for sure that any other person you have met, talked to, loved, hated, slept with, wished to kill... was conscious in the same way you are. They could all have been "if... then" biological programs and it would look the exact same to you. We could all be products of your deep psychosis or we could all be illusions in a machine.

    If something displays consciousness, you give it the same benefit of a doubt that you expect it to give you. Else, you, to me, could just be a product of my psychosis and me putting a bullet into your head is akin to forgetting some thought.
     
  20. bhsup

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    ANYTHING a human makes will never be worthy of human rights. And as we have dominion given to us by God over everything on this earth, including things we make...
     

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