[OMG] Iranian earthquake 'kills 20,000'

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Iranian earthquake 'kills 20,000'
At least 20,000 people have died in the huge earthquake which struck south-eastern Iran, according to officials.

Rescuers are working through the night to hunt for survivors from the quake, which struck before dawn on Friday.

The ancient city of Bam has been devastated - most of its buildings have been flattened including two hospitals and a 16th Century citadel.

A big relief operation is under way, with many foreign countries sending supplies and rescue workers to Iran.

President Mohammad Khatami described the quake as a "national tragedy" and said it was too huge for Iran to cope with alone.

The United States offered humanitarian assistance, and President George W Bush said he was "ready to help" Iran.

Aid agencies are making urgent appeals for supplies such as tents, blankets and field hospitals.

But there are immediate fears for the safety of survivors - temperatures at night in this desert city drop to well below freezing, and food and water are in short supply.

Crushed

The country suffers frequent earthquakes, with small tremors happening almost daily. In one earthquake in 1990, 35,000 people died.

I lost my wife in this earthquake... I am very sad but I think Bam's people need international help
Asghar Ghasemi, Tehran
Bam and the surrounding area is home to more than 200,000 people. About 70% of the houses in Bam have been destroyed, Iranian state television reported.

It is thought many people were crushed as they slept.

There were scenes of intense grief in the city, with people weeping next to corpses shrouded in blankets.

"I have lost all my family. My parents, my grandmother and two sisters are under the rubble," Maryam, 17, told Reuters.

Two of the city's hospitals have collapsed, crushing many staff, and remaining hospitals are full. Many of the injured are having to be flown elsewhere for treatment.

A huge relief operation involving ordinary Iranians, the army, Islamic volunteer groups and local rescue teams is under way.

Rescue teams are flying to the area by plane and helicopter.

RECENT IRAN QUAKES
June 2002: more than 200 killed in the western Qasvin and Hamedan regions
May 1997: More than 1,500 killed in eastern Iran
February 1997: about 1,000 killed in north-western Iran
June 1990: 35,000 died in worst recorded disaster in Iran, affecting the Caspian regions of Gilan and Zanjan. About half a million people made homeless
June 1981: More than 1,000 killed in quake that destroyed town of Golbaf

Emergency centres set up in makeshift buildings are now trying to care for the tens of thousands who have been injured.

The BBC's Miranda Eeles in Tehran says that in many places there simply is not enough room.

Telephones, electricity and water supplies have been cut by the tremor.

The concern now is how to rescue those still alive but buried deep under the rubble, our correspondent adds.

A number of countries - including Russia, Britain, Germany and Spain - have offered to send relief teams and supplies.

Heritage site

The United Nations said it was sending experts to co-ordinate the aid effort.

The Red Crescent is setting up tents to house survivors.

Friday's quake had a magnitude of at least 6.3, according to Iranian sources. The US Geological Survey measured it at 6.7.

Bam - about 1,000 kilometres (620 miles) south-east of Tehran - was on the Unesco's list of World Heritage Sites.

An important regional centre in the 16th and 17th centuries, it contained many ancient buildings that were not built to withstand earthquakes.

Since 1991, tremors have claimed some 17,600 lives and injured 53,000 people, according to official figures.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/3350357.stm

Published: 2003/12/26 21:49:52 GMT

© BBC MMIII
 
whoa... that blows :undecide: nothing left to do now but have our nations give aid, and start to rebuild
 
in 1990 35 000 died in Iran of an earthquake.
 
People who live in geographical fault-lines should really stop building mud-houses.

I"m not going to get cynical - this is a major disaster from every viewpoint possible, however it is true most of the dead are a result of poor construction and what appears to be weak structural integrity.
We not only need to hand fish to these people by saving them now, someone should build up real concrete houses to keep them from going through this again. We need to teach them fishing.
 
True. Look at California, they just had an earthquake almost as strong, and very close to the surface, but because of building codes, only a few people died.
 
There's another thread on this, but yes, it is sad. And over there, there was an argument about buildings and codes and everything else. Where would they get the money to pay for all that?
 
Originally posted by Sh3kel
People who live in geographical fault-lines should really stop building mud-houses.
So if you had lived in their neighbourhood you would have used the money you don’t have to build an expensive earthquake proof concrete building?

Those people don’t have anything near the possibilities we do. You are unfair in your statement.

It’s like telling the poor people in the western world that they should stop driving cheap cars and buy expensive and safer BMW or Volvos instead.
 
Originally posted by basta72

So if you had lived in their neighbourhood you would have used the money you don’t have to build an expensive earthquake proof concrete building?

Those people don’t have anything near the possibilities we do. You are unfair in your statement.

It’s like telling the poor people in the western world that they should stop driving cheap cars and buy expensive and safer BMW or Volvos instead.

He was referring to the fact that these people are constantly settling in these risky regions. It had nothing to do with economic class.
 
I get the feeling that building codes would raise building costs too much both for the Iranian citizens and corporations, preventing construction all together.

It would still save some lives, but seriously, Iran isn't exactly as wealthy as the regions on the Californian fault lines.
 
This news set off a familiar shame for me. I live in Vancouver, the HQ of Can TF-1. This is an "internationally capable" urban search and rescue team, a well funded, highly trained and wonderfully equipped group of fine men and women ready to dash off to faraway lands, to save lives. But they've never gone anywhere. When news of this disaster broke, I thought of Can TF-1, and I tried to forget about them. I'm sick of listening to the radio day after day after disaster strikes and hearing the estimated body count growing and growing while Can TF-1 stands by because "they haven't received an official invitation".

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"Overcome"? :mad: BS! Time I wrote some encouraging e-mails.
 
Originally posted by basta72

So if you had lived in their neighbourhood you would have used the money you don’t have to build an expensive earthquake proof concrete building?

Those people don’t have anything near the possibilities we do. You are unfair in your statement.

It’s like telling the poor people in the western world that they should stop driving cheap cars and buy expensive and safer BMW or Volvos instead.
Another quake wiped out the same town a few years back, killing about 35,000 people. This isn't the first time the city has been leved by a lack of buildign codes (mostly due to poverty, true).

Where I come from, Mexico City, there was a quake in 1957 that almsot razed the city. When people set to rebuild and make buildings more resistant, the next quake of that magnitude that hit in 1985 had lesser impact the one in 1957. Mexico isn't exactly an example of a wealthy country either, but it is a democracy in which the government at least pretends to care about its citizens. If the Iranian presidency wills it, they can rebuild this city properly - Hatami and his cohorots simply need to cut back the corruption factor from 90% to 75% for a while.

Bam has been razed before and will be razed again. Sending international aid and saying "damn shame" every time a mud building crashes into bits is giving these people fish. Spending the same money that goes into keeping them in this state on building new houses by western codes using Iranian workers and contractors is teaching them how to fish.
 
Wow that is really bad. 20,000 dead, thats just the start. Once those bodies start decaying it will be a huge problem.
 
Whether they rebuild properly or not, that old medieval fortress that was destroyed can't be replaced.
 
tthis cotastrophe could easily have been prevented, but sadly, the people of Iran live in 3rd world conditions, so how are they gonna afford to earthquake-proof their country? in California, we had a 6.5 magnitude earthquake recently and it killed only 2 people. luckily, i was to far away to feel it.
 
You can't exactly prevent earthquakes, but yoiu can recude the casualty count. For example, two same intensity earthqakes hit California and Iran in the same week, and the death count is 10,000 times higher in Iran. Why? Building codes. Iran isn't as wealthy as California, but you have to blame some of that on the government, I mean where does all that oil money go? Obviously not to improving structures and public safety. Still, it is extremely sad that this had to occur, and I sympathize with the people of Iran and all the family and friends of the people that were killed.
 
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