One of the reasons I love BNW more than GnK

[CrossTheRiver]

I'm playing Shoshone, Huge, continents, 15 civs, King difficulty. I've gotten more than 7 goody huts. I think 9 but can't remember. I'm overpowered as all get-out. Highest score, number 1 in techs thanks to the path finders. Life is good.

Then Brazil hits a golden age and declares a different ideology. Then the dutch reveal they've spent all game making nice-nice with all the city states and now have more delegates than everyone else put together.

Then the negative pop sets in. World religion wasn't mine.

What the crap? I was dominating. How am I losing? In GnK I could have just coasted to victory before 1500 ad...

I'm losing because this game adds a lot of depth that the previous iterations did not have and I love it. I can't just neglect the city-states like I used to. I can't ignore culture and tourism and I must always always always CRUSH BRAZIL.

How about you guys. Anyone have that one experience that jumped out at you and made you say, "Yeah ok, this is the real deal"

 

[EgyptRaider]

Haven't developed in a game thus far but this sounds like a really nice expierence even if you're just on the losing side haha
It's also nice that the AI is now really pushing for Religions. Previously I always would get a religion even though my faith gathering was far from active. Now if I want a religion I need to actively build shrines and use the piety policies.

Only thing i dislike is the fact that wars only really start to occur around the renaissance era hope this gets fixed..

 

[Veneke]

Sounds like a fun game.

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How about you guys. Anyone have that one experience that jumped out at you and made you say, "Yeah ok, this is the real deal"

Two instances in my game stand out as being a kind of 'Well damn...' moments. Settings are: Immortal, Marathon, Small continents as Portugal.

Myself and Brazil were right opposite each other across a small sea connected by coast and had been friends the entire game; DoFs, RAs, you name it. The time comes to pick an ideology: I go Freedom for the Treaty Organization tenet while the tech leader, Morocco, goes Order. Things are going pretty smoothly until it's time for Brazil to pick an ideology and he goes Order... complete diplomatic catastrophe happens the next turn - his relations with me plummet, deals are not renewed and at the next Congress his proposal was to embargo me. A small bit after that, he and Morocco declare war. That war was actually a little pressing given that I had been neglecting my military for basically the entire game. Watching a horde of GW Infantry and Artillery cross into your territory in good order is a little unnerving. The situation was so bad, in fact, that for 3 GPT I got Shaka to wipe out Poland and the Shoshone to ensure that he wouldn't join in. I felt bad that it cost so little.

Everything from the 'Bloody hell, I could lose this war' to the complete and understandable reversal in relations between Brazil and I was pretty awesome. The only thing that mars it is that I'm still not sure why Brazil went Order, he had the Forbidden Palace so Freedom for the diplo win would've made sense. Although, by the time he went to pick I had already most of the city-states well into my pocket so maybe that influenced it? Regardless, that was easily the most memorable diplomatic moment I've seen.


The second event is really a general trend - the AI now launching amphibious invasions consisting of mixed infantry and artillery guarded by boats and escorted by boats. Over the course of one game I've seen better naval warfare from the AI than I have in either Vanilla or G&K. Their amphibious invasions are still a little small (3 infantry + 2 artillery + 4 ranged boats and 5 melee is good but not if I have anything at all to hand) but they are executed very well and that's a significant improvement.

 

[CrossTheRiver]

Haven't developed in a game thus far but this sounds like a really nice expierence even if you're just on the losing side haha
It's also nice that the AI is now really pushing for Religions. Previously I always would get a religion even though my faith gathering was far from active. Now if I want a religion I need to actively build shrines and use the piety policies.

Only thing i dislike is the fact that wars only really start to occur around the renaissance era hope this gets fixed..

I haven't experienced this like others report. Maybe because I play with a few extra civs, but in this game I was DOW'd very early on by a misguided Austria. They tried to beat back to comp bows and a pike with several pike and a few catapults. The city was behind a mountain and only accessible by 1 tile which I defended.

In my other games I am seeing varying degrees of serious aggression. It's no longer predictable and I like that a lot. In Gods and Kings I knew when war was coming (shortly after embassy haha) and I knew when I had the game won (shortly after defending the war).

No so in this game =)

 

[Anarchist]

I'm playing Shoshone, Huge, continents, 15 civs, King difficulty. I've gotten more than 7 goody huts. I think 9 but can't remember. I'm overpowered as all get-out. Highest score, number 1 in techs thanks to the path finders. Life is good.

Then Brazil hits a golden age and declares a different ideology. Then the dutch reveal they've spent all game making nice-nice with all the city states and now have more delegates than everyone else put together.

Then the negative pop sets in. World religion wasn't mine.

What the crap? I was dominating. How am I losing? In GnK I could have just coasted to victory before 1500 ad...

I'm losing because this game adds a lot of depth that the previous iterations did not have and I love it. I can't just neglect the city-states like I used to. I can't ignore culture and tourism and I must always always always CRUSH BRAZIL.

How about you guys. Anyone have that one experience that jumped out at you and made you say, "Yeah ok, this is the real deal"

Yes, me too. My first game I had something very similar. I chose freedom, and only one other civ did. We became allies and are bashing the others now. I was at the top, but now I am forced to fight to keep there.

Unfortunately I was duped into thinking my troops could land on another continent, but on getting there I cannot without declaring war first, so have to go all round the world. That'd be too late, so I started another game anyway.

 

[Thuellai]

Haven't developed in a game thus far but this sounds like a really nice expierence even if you're just on the losing side haha
It's also nice that the AI is now really pushing for Religions. Previously I always would get a religion even though my faith gathering was far from active. Now if I want a religion I need to actively build shrines and use the piety policies.

Only thing i dislike is the fact that wars only really start to occur around the renaissance era hope this gets fixed..

That got fixed for me

Played a game as Harun al-Rashid, planning to go for a victory using his religious and trade benefits. Had my cities growing well, claimed a couple really fertile flood-plains with good resources, was doing great

Turn 110, Attilla the Hun declares war and promptly rolls in six battering rams with archer back-up. My 'enough to keep the barbs away' army was no match for that.