one reason why israel is so good at Propaganda

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http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...hat-helps-israelis-to-hide-facts-9630765.html

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Israeli spokesmen have their work cut out explaining how they have killed more than 1,000 Palestinians in Gaza, most of them civilians, compared with just three civilians killed in Israel by Hamas rocket and mortar fire. But on television and radio and in newspapers, Israeli government spokesmen such as Mark Regev appear slicker and less aggressive than their predecessors, who were often visibly indifferent to how many Palestinians were killed.
There is a reason for this enhancement of the PR skills of Israeli spokesmen. Going by what they say, the playbook they are using is a professional, well-researched and confidential study on how to influence the media and public opinion in America and Europe. Written by the expert Republican pollster and political strategist Dr Frank Luntz, the study was commissioned five years ago by a group called The Israel Project, with offices in the US and Israel, for use by those "who are on the front lines of fighting the media war for Israel".

Every one of the 112 pages in the booklet is marked "not for distribution or publication" and it is easy to see why. The Luntz report, officially entitled "The Israel project's 2009 Global Language Dictionary, was leaked almost immediately to Newsweek Online, but its true importance has seldom been appreciated. It should be required reading for everybody, especially journalists, interested in any aspect of Israeli policy because of its "dos and don'ts" for Israeli spokesmen.

These are highly illuminating about the gap between what Israeli officials and politicians really believe, and what they say, the latter shaped in minute detail by polling to determine what Americans want to hear. Certainly, no journalist interviewing an Israeli spokesman should do so without reading this preview of many of the themes and phrases employed by Mr Regev and his colleagues.

The booklet is full of meaty advice about how they should shape their answers for different audiences. For example, the study says that "Americans agree that Israel 'has a right to defensible borders'. But it does you no good to define exactly what those borders should be. Avoid talking about borders in terms of pre- or post-1967, because it only serves to remind Americans of Israel's military history. Particularly on the left this does you harm. For instance, support for Israel's right to defensible borders drops from a heady 89 per cent to under 60 per cent when you talk about it in terms of 1967."

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How about the right of return for Palestinian refugees who were expelled or fled in 1948 and in the following years, and who are not allowed to go back to their homes? Here Dr Luntz has subtle advice for spokesmen, saying that "the right of return is a tough issue for Israelis to communicate effectively because much of Israeli language sounds like the 'separate but equal' words of the 1950s segregationists and the 1980s advocates of Apartheid. The fact is, Americans don't like, don't believe and don't accept the concept of 'separate but equal'."

So how should spokesmen deal with what the booklet admits is a tough question? They should call it a "demand", on the grounds that Americans don't like people who make demands. "Then say 'Palestinians aren't content with their own state. Now they're demanding territory inside Israel'." Other suggestions for an effective Israeli response include saying that the right of return might become part of a final settlement "at some point in the future".

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Dr Luntz notes that Americans as a whole are fearful of mass immigration into the US, so mention of "mass Palestinian immigration" into Israel will not go down well with them. If nothing else works, say that the return of Palestinians would "derail the effort to achieve peace".

The Luntz report was written in the aftermath of Operation Cast Lead in December 2008 and January 2009, when 1,387 Palestinians and nine Israelis were killed.

There is a whole chapter on "isolating Iran-backed Hamas as an obstacle to peace". Unfortunately, come the current Operation Protective Edge, which began on 6 July, there was a problem for Israeli propagandists because Hamas had quarrelled with Iran over the war in Syria and had no contact with Tehran. Friendly relations have been resumed only in the past few days – thanks to the Israeli invasion.

Frank Luntz Frank Luntz Much of Dr Luntz's advice is about the tone and presentation of the Israeli case. He says it is absolutely crucial to exude empathy for Palestinians: "Persuadables [sic] won't care how much you know until they know how much you care. Show Empathy for BOTH sides!" This may explain why a number of Israeli spokesman are almost lachrymose about the plight of Palestinians being pounded by Israeli bombs and shells.

In a sentence in bold type, underlined and with capitalisation, Dr Luntz says that Israeli spokesmen or political leaders must never, ever justify "the deliberate slaughter of innocent women and children" and they must aggressively challenge those who accuse Israel of such a crime. Israeli spokesmen struggled to be true to this prescription when 16 Palestinians were killed in a UN shelter in Gaza last Thursday.

There is a list of words and phrases to be used and a list of those to be avoided. Schmaltz is at a premium: "The best way, the only way, to achieve lasting peace is to achieve mutual respect." Above all, Israel's desire for peace with the Palestinians should be emphasised at all times because this what Americans overwhelmingly want to happen. But any pressure on Israel to actually make peace can be reduced by saying "one step at a time, one day at a time", which will be accepted as "a commonsense approach to the land-for-peace equation".

Dr Luntz cites as an example of an "effective Israeli sound bite" one which reads: "I particularly want to reach out to Palestinian mothers who have lost their children. No parent should have to bury their child."

The study admits that the Israeli government does not really want a two-state solution, but says this should be masked because 78 per cent of Americans do. Hopes for the economic betterment of Palestinians should be emphasised.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is quoted with approval for saying that it is "time for someone to ask Hamas: what exactly are YOU doing to bring prosperity to your people". The hypocrisy of this beggars belief: it is the seven-year-old Israeli economic siege that has reduced the Gaza to poverty and misery.

On every occasion, the presentation of events by Israeli spokesmen is geared to giving Americans and Europeans the impression that Israel wants peace with the Palestinians and is prepared to compromise to achieve this, when all the evidence is that it does not. Though it was not intended as such, few more revealing studies have been written about modern Israel in times of war and peace.
 
How good is Israel's propaganda machine really, when most of the world does not support them or their actions?

Is the implication here that things are a lot worse and that what we're hearing about the conflict over here a sugar-coated version of events? Because I find that hard to believe.
 
They also give students free scholarship funding on the basis of arguing in favor of spewing drivel in favor of the israeli government. The Independent and some other english papers had articles on that.
 
How good is Israel's propaganda machine really, when most of the world does not support them or their actions?

Is the implication here that things are a lot worse and that what we're hearing about the conflict over here a sugar-coated version of events? Because I find that hard to believe.

You being serious!!!:confused: ffs APOLOGIES if youve just trolled me..

My current "Country"

""Each year the UK gives over £6billion to Israel and a similar amount in arms. This is more than the combined amount of aid given to any other country. Our Government is prepared to make cuts to our health care, our police, our pensions yet they still give our tax payers money to Israel so they can continue to carry out the illegal occupation and brutal murder of the Palestinians"
 
That's hardly in dispute...
Oh, it is with you. Got it.
When you argue against documented and easily verifiable facts, it weakens your credibility.
 
They also give students free scholarship funding on the basis of arguing in favor of spewing drivel in favor of the israeli government. The Independent and some other english papers had articles on that.


To True, “Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play"
 
You being serious!!!:confused: ffs APOLOGIES if youve just trolled me..

My current "Country"

""Each year the UK gives over £6billion to Israel and a similar amount in arms. This is more than the combined amount of aid given to any other country. Our Government is prepared to make cuts to our health care, our police, our pensions yet they still give our tax payers money to Israel so they can continue to carry out the illegal occupation and brutal murder of the Palestinians"

They get support from governments, but not from citizens.

If they have convinced world governments to support them, was this done via propaganda? If so, this propaganda seems to be very selective - affecting world leaders only, and not regular citizens.

It seems like regular citizens will have to be convinced eventually too, as they sometimes have the power to shift the balance and make the politicians change their position.
 
They get support from governments, but not from citizens.

If they have convinced world governments to support them, was this done via propaganda? If so, this propaganda seems to be very selective - affecting world leaders only, and not regular citizens.

It seems like regular citizens will have to be convinced eventually too, as they sometimes have the power to shift the balance and make the politicians change their position.


The thread was "one reason why israel is so good at Propaganda" and tbf the main player backing the terror state is the good old US o A
 
How good is Israel's propaganda machine really, when most of the world does not support them or their actions?
Mind you that this is targeted towards Americans.

Support in America seems to be pretty strong.
the terror state
Could you stop posting these conversation killers please?
 
The thread was "one reason why israel is so good at Propaganda"

Change it too "why Israel is so bad in propaganda"
Or to "why i hate Israel"
 
You being serious!!!:confused: ffs APOLOGIES if youve just trolled me..

My current "Country"

""Each year the UK gives over £6billion to Israel and a similar amount in arms. This is more than the combined amount of aid given to any other country. Our Government is prepared to make cuts to our health care, our police, our pensions yet they still give our tax payers money to Israel so they can continue to carry out the illegal occupation and brutal murder of the Palestinians"

The United Kingdom gives Israel $10.2 billion US dollars every year?

That is like triple what the USA gives. :lol:


The thread was "one reason why israel is so good at Propaganda"

Dr. Luntz gives very good advice if the goal is to hoodwink dumb Americans.
Thanks for linking that article. :goodjob:


Let me check and see if I have any more good Israeli propaganda lying around to contribute.


Link to video.

Those UN ambulances are legendary.
 
Which one of you fine British gentlemen will step up to take the position of High Commissioner of the New Palestine?
 
The thread was "one reason why israel is so good at Propaganda" and tbf the main player backing the terror state is the good old US o A

Mind you that this is targeted towards Americans.

Support in America seems to be pretty strong.

Isn't that mainly due to the Jewish defense league and other Jewish lobbying groups, plus support from crazy religious people who think that they need to support Israel because Jesus?

neither of which has anything to do with propaganda coming from Israel, although I suppose you could argue that the lobbying groups have been affected by it.
 
Isn't that mainly due to the Jewish defense league and other Jewish lobbying groups, plus support from crazy religious people who think that they need to support Israel because Jesus?

neither of which has anything to do with propaganda coming from Israel, although I suppose you could argue that the lobbying groups have been affected by it.

Jewish lobbying groups are quite strong in the U.S.
Here is their last big success:

House delivers for AIPAC, 410-1, passing Israel as ‘strategic partner’ bill

Alex Kane on March 5, 2014


The American-Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) is bruised from the fight over Iran sanctions. But that didn’t stop the group from helping to push through legislation designating Israel as a “major strategic partner”–a first for any U.S. ally. The measure has been a major lobby priority since last year.

Today, the House of Representatives passed the U.S.-Israel Strategic Partnership Act by a 410-1 vote. The lone dissenting voice was Representative Thomas Massie (R-KY), a libertarian aligned with Senator Rand Paul. The Senate has not voted on their version of the bill yet, though it has strong support there, with 55 co-sponsors from both parties.

In addition to the “major strategic partner” designation, the bill allows for Israelis to travel to the U.S. without visas, though the State Department has to certify that Israel meets the requirements for the visa-waiver program. The legislation also calls for giving Israel advanced combat aircraft and military tanker transports. It was authored by the hawkish Florida Republican Ileana Ros-Lehtinen...

That is quite the lopsided vote!


And quite a few Evangelicals support Israel because they think it is required to exist before the 2nd Coming of Jesus can happen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Zionism

In United States politics, Christian Zionism is important because it mobilises an important Republican constituency[citation needed]: fundamentalist and evangelical Protestants who support Israel. The Democratic Party, which has the support of most American Jews, is also generally pro-Israel, but with less intensity and fewer theological underpinnings.[citation needed]

Sociologically, Christian Zionism can be seen as a product of the peculiar circumstances of the United States, in which the world's largest community of Jews lives side by side with the world's largest community of evangelical Christians. There has historically been a somewhat antagonistic relationship between these two communities[citation needed], largely based on the generally liberal/progressive social policy tendencies of the Jewish community with the more 'rugged individualist' leanings of the American Protestant communities, more so than any theological dispute. Their mutual reverence for the texts of the Hebrew Bible has brought them together, however, as has their common ground against generally leftist pro-Palestinian and/or anti-Israeli factions in American politics.

The mobilisation of evangelicals has tended to bolster the so-called neo-conservative policies of the Republicans[citation needed], because Christian Zionists tend to favor a hawkish foreign policy and have less sympathy for Palestinian claims than do the Democrats[citation needed].

Examples of Christian leaders combining political conservatism with Christian Zionism are Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, leading figures of the Christian Right in the 1980s and 1990s. Falwell said in 1981: "To stand against Israel is to stand against God. We believe that history and scripture prove that God deals with nations in relation to how they deal with Israel." They cite part of the blessing of Isaac at Genesis 27:29, "Those who curse you will be cursed, and those who bless you will be blessed."

The government of Israel has given official encouragement to Christian Zionism, allowing the establishment in 1980 of the International Christian Embassy Jerusalem. The main function of the embassy is to enlist worldwide Christian support for Israel. The embassy has raised funds to help finance Jewish immigration to Israel from the former Soviet Union, and has assisted Zionist groups in establishing Jewish settlements in the West Bank.

And to get those blessings:
2And I will make you a great nation, And I will bless you, And make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing; 3And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you all the families of the earth will be blessed." 4So Abram went forth as the LORD had spoken to him; and Lot went with him.

So if you want God to bless/keep blessing America, support Israel. :crazyeye:
 
My current "Country"

""Each year the UK gives over £6billion to Israel and a similar amount in arms. This is more than the combined amount of aid given to any other country. Our Government is prepared to make cuts to our health care, our police, our pensions yet they still give our tax payers money to Israel so they can continue to carry out the illegal occupation and brutal murder of the Palestinians"
That is a lot of money. Plus a similar amount in arms.. Have you been able to check if it's true?
 
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