Ongoing Coup in Sri Lanka

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Why is the Sri Lankan government in turmoil?

The nation’s president and prime minister come from traditionally opposing parties that formed a surprise coalition in 2015 to oust the then-president Mahinda Rajapaksa, who many feared was becoming too powerful.

In the past two years, this ruling coalition has started to fall apart. It is dysfunctional and unpopular with the Sri Lankan public. Since at least February this year, president Maithripala Sirisena has been searching for ways to remove the prime minister, Ranil Wickremasinghe.

On Friday, he found one: suddenly declaring he was firing Wickremasinghe and replacing him with Rajapaksa – the same man he had joined forces with Wickremasinghe in 2015 to defeat.

Rajapaksa, a controversial Buddhist nationalist, is probably the most popular politician in Sri Lanka, and some are speculating in Colombo that Sirisena saw an alliance with the former president as his best chance of remaining in power.

Was it legal to have fired Wickremasinghe?

That is for the Sri Lankan supreme court to decide – and a case is yet to be brought – but a close look at the constitution suggests it may not be. In 2015, Sri Lanka amended its constitution to prevent the president from sacking any prime minister unless they had died, resigned or lost the confidence of parliament.

Sirisena has pointed to another constitutional article that allows the president to appoint as prime minister any MP who, “in the president’s opinion”, is most likely to command the confidence of parliament.

Constitutional lawyers say Sirisena may have taken this too literally; that his “opinion” should be based on whoever commands the most numbers in parliament.

Wickremasinghe’s party has a plurality of MPs, and on Friday he called for an emergency vote to prove he still had the confidence of parliament. But he was prevented from doing so on Saturday, when Sirisena suddenly suspended parliament until 16 November. This was widely seen as an indication the Sirisena-Rajapaksa forces do not believe they would win a parliamentary vote, and need to time to persuade MPs.

So who is prime minister now?

Wickremasinghe has refused to recognise the order firing him and continues to occupy the prime ministerial residence in Colombo, called Temple Trees. The compound has been surrounded by his supporters.

But Sirisena has started stripping Wickremasinghe of staff and privileges. Wickremasinghe has lost his official cars, his office and last night had his security detail reduced from a force of more than 1,000 officers to ten.
Rajapaksa, meanwhile, is doing everything he can to establish himself as the prime minister. He will start using Wickremasinghe’s office from Monday, has appeared in pictures being saluted by the chief of police, and says he will soon appoint a cabinet.

The deadline of 16 November looms for both men, when parliament is scheduled to reopen and the assembly will likely vote on which man it recognises as the lawful prime minister. Nobody knows for sure, but Rajapaksa is thought to have around 100 loyal MPs, and needs 13 more for a majority of the 225-seat assembly.

What are overseas governments saying?

On Monday morning the US urged Sirisena to reconvene parliament immediately. China is thought to be in Rajapaksa’s camp: its ambassador paid a “courtesy call” to him on Saturday, the first foreign dignitary to do so.

During his 10-year stint in the presidency, Rajapaksa had a sour relationship with the west. He oversaw the end of the 27-year Sri Lankan civil war in 2009 through a series of brutal military offensives in which the UN estimates up to 40,000 Tamil civilians died. His tenure was also marred by accusations his security forces were forcibly disappearing, torturing and murdering activists and dissidents.

In that atmosphere, few western governments were willing to help fund Sri Lanka’s reconstruction after the war. So Rajapaksa turned to China, which lavished Sri Lanka with enormous loans for infrastructure projects including major air and sea ports in Hambantota, the Rajapaksa family’s ancestral homeland.

Many of these projects have turned out to be white elephants, forcing Sri Lanka to renegotiate the terms of its loans – and in the case of the Hambantota port, hand over control of the entire property to a Chinese-state owned corporation on a 99-year lease. Some analysts have argued this was China’s plan all along: that Sri Lanka had walked into a debt trap.

The Sirisena-Wickremasinghe coalition came to office in 2015 promising to loosen financial ties with China; in power, it has discovered these contracts are harder to escape than they thought. It has slowly turned back to Beijing in the past two years, albeit while trying to assure the west, as well as its traditional patron India, that they won’t be frozen out.

Could the political standoff turn violent?

A protester was shot dead on Sunday night and two others were injured when a crowd of men affiliated to a pro-Sirisena union mobbed a cabinet minister, Arjuna Ranatunga, as he was trying to enter a government building. One of his guards apparently panicked and fired several rounds at the crowd. The guard has been arrested.

The assessment of most observers, including western diplomats in Colombo, is that Sunday’s shooting was a one-off occurrence. But tensions are extremely high and pro-Sirisena and Rajapaksa groups are protesting across the city.

Wickremasinghe’s United National Party is planning its own large protest for Tuesday. All police leave has been cancelled and the army has been deployed in parts of the city as a show of state strength and stability.

More light reading. All from The Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...is-in-sri-lanka-could-lead-to-major-bloodbath

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-ministers-bodyguards-open-fire-on-protesters

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...e-minister-refuses-to-leave-as-crisis-deepens

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...risis-mahinda-rajapaksa-prime-minister-sacked

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...il-after-prime-minister-wickremesinghe-sacked

TLDR:

The President has sacked the Prime Minister, apparently in violation of the constitution, and installed the former President and strongman (ie, wannabe tyrant) as PM. The elected PM called an emergency session of Parliament to prove he had the numbers to form Govt., but the President cancelled the sitting. The strongman's supporters (ie, goons) have been attempting to seize control of newspapers, radio stations, and television stations, and have succeeded in some cases. A crowd attacked a Govt. minister and his bodyguards opened fire on the crowd. The crowd was comprised of unionists, who demanded the minister be arrested; he was, then released on bail. The PM is refusing to vacate his official residence. Some Govt. MPs are switching allegiance to the strongman, possibly out of fear for their lives. Still no word on which way the police and military are jumping.
 
I heard the PM was deposed and the President made sure Parliament couldn't/wouldn't assemble, but I really haven't looked at it any further.

Sounds like things are worse than I expected.
 
The old PM was closer to India, the more traditional ally
The new PM is closer to China.
Sri Lanka is an essential maritime basis for China, and China has invested a lot in Sri Lanka.
 
The old PM was closer to India, the more traditional ally
The new PM is closer to China.
Sri Lanka is an essential maritime basis for China, and China has invested a lot in Sri Lanka.
The "new PM" - it's still very confused with no sign of who will win out - also presided over the previous undemocratic regime and won the civil war by encouraging war crimes. China definitely wants Sri Lanka as naval base, and he's willing to play ball in exchange for weapons and cash.
 
It's escalating.

Source.

The military and bureaucracy are lining up behind Rajapaksa, the former strongman. The President, Sirisena, is now floating a ridiculous story claiming he fired Wickremasinghe, the elected PM, because W was involved in a plot by the Indian Govt. to assassinate S. The violence is also escalating, and at least one person is dead. The Tamilsare fearing "military escalation" under R. That is code for "genocide." R's brother was his Defence Minister until 2015, and openly advocated ethnic cleansing.

Other articles I've read have indicated the Sri Lankan military has been eyeing the Burmese - I refuse to call it "Myanmar;" I don't see the Govt. there as legitimate - actions against the Rohingya as a blueprint for actions against the Tamils. Considering I have already seen videos of Sri Lankan war crimes against the Tamils in the past - including the burnt corpses of preteen girls who were staked to the ground, raped, had their limbs chopped off, then doused in gasoline and set alight while still alive - the fact that the military apparently wants to ramp up persecution against the Tamils is terrifying. As many as 40,000 Tamil civilians were killed in the last few years of the war.

China has already congratulated R, and India is reaching out to him in spite of its preference for W.

I'm honestly surprised this isn't getting more attention on CFC. We're witnessing a coup in a state that's been democratic since 1948. That is completely unprecedented; there has literally never been a coup in a democracy older than 25 years.
 
I'm honestly surprised this isn't getting more attention on CFC. We're witnessing a coup in a state that's been democratic since 1948. That is completely unprecedented; there has literally never been a coup in a democracy older than 25 years.
Are we talking actually democratic, with viable multi party elections; or an India-style democracy that was a de facto one party state with a brief period of rule by decree?
 
My impression from briefly flipping through the Wikipedia pages on Sri Lankan parliamentary elections is that it has been genuinely multi-party since independence. There was one case where the governing party used its 2/3 majority (the threshold for amending the constitution) to promulgate a new constitution, and to allow them to hold a referendum to prolong its rule rather than hold elections where they would probably have lost said 2/3 majority. The referendum was conducted under a state of emergency but still appears to have been relatively free and fair, and passed with 54% of the vote.

Obviously I don't know much though. Hopefully someone with more knowledge of Sri Lankan political history than 15 minutes on Wikipedia shows up.

I don't know anything about the present situation either. Keep us posted!
 
thats where Arthur C Clarke lived
Too bad he didn't seize power while he lived. Great man.

My impression from briefly flipping through the Wikipedia pages on Sri Lankan parliamentary elections is that it has been genuinely multi-party since independence. There was one case where the governing party used its 2/3 majority (the threshold for amending the constitution) to promulgate a new constitution, and to allow them to hold a referendum to prolong its rule rather than hold elections where they would probably have lost said 2/3 majority. The referendum was conducted under a state of emergency but still appears to have been relatively free and fair, and passed with 54% of the vote.

Obviously I don't know much though. Hopefully someone with more knowledge of Sri Lankan political history than 15 minutes on Wikipedia shows up.

I don't know anything about the present situation either. Keep us posted!
You're pretty much spot on. R's party attempted to make Sri Lanka a one-party state, Erdogan-style, but were defeated in the 2015 elections. Apparently they've abandoned their pretence of caring about democracy.

Sri Lanka has had very powerful Govts and Presidents that ruled by decree using emergency powers, but those Govts were elected, and the decrees were only used during legitimate emergencies; the was a bloody civil war happening after all. This is a rather shocking development precisely because SL has always been a pretty decent democracy, even when it had unsavoury Govts.
 
Dude, they just got out of a 30 year civil war and now they might be heading right back into another one? Get it together Sri Lanka.
 
Dude, they just got out of a 30 year civil war and now they might be heading right back into another one? Get it together Sri Lanka.
There isn't much chance of another civil war. The Tamil Tigers are gone, wiped out. Most of them were massacred, along with tens of thousands of civilians who just happened to share their ethnicity. There is no longer a viable military force to fight back if the military decides to begin an ethnic cleansing in the northeast.

It seems likely at this point that this coup was actually planned for months, and President Sirisena merely took advantage of a useful excuse - the legislature postponed local government elections due to civic unrest in parts of the country; they had good reason to do this, as they were actually trying to prevent outbreaks of violence in regions shared between Tamils and Sinhalese - to move against Wickremasinghe. It seems the original plan may have been to seize power while W was out of the country later in the year, on a planned visit to India - hence the excuses about India planning to assassinate S - but this opportunity gave S and Rajapaksa the illusion of legitimacy, whereas the original plan was an outright, indefensible coup.

The reason the military, police, and bureaucracy originally didn't know which way to jump was because S pulled the trigger early because of this unexpected opportunity to claim legitimacy. But enough of R's old people were still in positions of authority, especially in the military, that he was able to quickly consolidate his position. He also appears to have the majority of support in the union movement; the end of the civil war has led to competition from Tamils for jobs, and his plan to restrict Tamil rights has met with support from workers. He is also blaming the poor economic conditions, mostly the result of him bankrupting the country during his previous ten years in charge, on W's Govt. and the Tamils.

Parliament still appears to be mostly on W's side, but more and more MPs are switching allegiance; one MP has already switched sides three times, the last time at a press conference with members of the military, which kind of proves my point earlier about threats being made to coerce W's supporters to switch teams. At least he got a cabinet position out of his betrayal, although he doesn't seem to have had much choice.

I'm very concerned we're going to see a successful coup and a re-run of the Rohingya cleansing here. The only real shot is that the Speaker of Parliament is still backing W. He has enough authority that an attempt to arrest him would probably lead to rioting in Colombo, and the military may not fire on Sinhalese protesters. So S and R are stepping lightly at the moment. The press is also mostly backing W, although portions of them have dramatically changed positions over the last 48 hours, amid reports that more and more newspapers are simply being stormed by R's mobs and forced to publish stories in his favour.
 
Other articles I've read have indicated the Sri Lankan military has been eyeing the Burmese - I refuse to call it "Myanmar;" I don't see the Govt. there as legitimate - actions against the Rohingya as a blueprint for actions against the Tamils.

Perhaps, if Rohingya didn’t carry out terrorist attacks and not kill 12 local policemen things might have went differently for them.

Considering I have already seen videos of Sri Lankan war crimes against the Tamils in the past

Have you seen videos of Tamil Tigers war crimes? Why the preference? Both sides probably commited war crimes. The government side. And the terrorist organisation (LTTE).

Watchdog groups have accused both the Sri Lankan military and the LTTE of engaging in widespread human rights abuses, including abduction, conscription, and the use of child soldiers. In August 2007, Human Rights Watch released a report that catalogues alleged abuses on both sides of the conflict. Amnesty International made similar accusations in its 2008 report on the state of the world’s human rights.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/sri-lankan-conflict
 
Perhaps, if Rohingya didn’t carry out terrorist attacks and not kill 12 local policemen things might have went differently for them.



Have you seen videos of Tamil Tigers war crimes? Why the preference? Both sides probably commited war crimes. The government side. And the terrorist organisation (LTTE).



https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/sri-lankan-conflict
Wow, blaming the Rohingya for being genocided. What a lovely chap you are. Those 12 local policemen entirely equivalent with the more than 1 million Rohingya that have been forced to flee Burma over the ethnic cleasing going on there.

Not to mention you haven't provided any link to this story about 12 policement being murdered, and I have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

The Tigers definitely committed war crimes. But they are gone now. The LTTE was completely wiped out, its leadership either dead or imprisoned. There is no legitimate military or political reason for continuing the campaign. It would be the equivalent of rounding up German civilians a decade after WWII and massacring them for the crimes of the Nazis. If any of the LTTE leadership are found to have escaped, I would support them being arrested, tried, and even executed under Sri Lankan law (although I don't support the death penalty). But prosecuting the war 9 years after it ended by attacking an entire ethnic group is ethnic cleansing, pure and simple. The crimes of a previous regime don't excuse the crimes of the current one.
 
Perhaps, if Rohingya didn’t carry out terrorist attacks and not kill 12 local policemen things might have went differently for them.
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Have you seen videos of Tamil Tigers war crimes? Why the preference? Both sides probably commited war crimes. The government side. And the terrorist organisation (LTTE).
Open question, does this mook genuinely not understand the difference between paramilitaries and civilians, or is he just affecting ignorance to get a rise?
 
Open question, does this mook genuinely not understand the difference between paramilitaries and civilians, or is he just affecting stupidity to get a rise?
The only contacts I've had with him before is in the Tesla thread, and my thread about Khashoggi, where he appeared to support a conspiracy theory about Khashoggi being killed by the Saudis because his uncle, who has been dead quite a while now, was an arms dealer, and the Saudis wanted control of the family business - which Khashoggi had no interests in - or some-such. This is in spite of the fact the Saudis had already admitted to murdering him at the time, and were simply making up excuses as to why.

So he's obviously a conspiracy nut, but that could still go either way on your question.
 
Wow, blaming the Rohingya for being genocided. What a lovely chap you are

I was blaming Rohingya terrorists for killing 12 policemen, not "blaming Rohingya for being genocided”. Slow down, you’re typing faster than thinking.
 
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Well, I expected someone “refusing to call Myanmar Myanmar” to have some idea about what he is talkig about. So yeah, Sorry. )

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-41082689

And try to be nicer, this isn’t prison yard.
So you're accusing me of not knowing what I was talking about because I didn't get your reference to an event that occurred over a year ago as part of a wider conflict? And the article you linked explicitly states that the Burmese military and Buddhist monks are conducting an ethnic cleansing in Rakhine province. That much is indisputable, except by the Burmese Govt.

Also, Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army (ARSA) is not even a terrorist group. It's a legitimate military resistance movement responding to abuses by the Burmese Govt. against Rohingya. My own Govt. which is a racist regime in its own right, has contact with ARSA, much as we did with FRETILIN, another terrorist group, when Timor-Leste was under Indonesian occupation. You act like that attack - a perfectly legitimate act of resistance - is what started the civil war. It was merely used as an excuse by the Burmese military to increase the severity of the crackdown on Rohingya. Only the Burmese claim ARSA is a terrorist/jihadist organisation, using the fact that the leader of the group was born in Saudi Arabia - his parents were Rohingya that fled previous crackdowns - as their excuse.

If you refuse to call them a resistance movement, use the neutral term "insurgency." If you continue to call them "terrorists," an accusation that even the damn Chinese don't support - in spite of their friendly relations with the Burmese regime - you're just proving yourself to be either trolling or a Burmese Govt. plant.

Funny, Tim and I just had a conversation in another thread about how polite people are in prison. I also never said anything insulting in the first place.
 
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