To Steam:
I do not want your product. Period. I especially don't want YET ANOTHER application running on my computer; connecting to the internet behind the scenes and eating up even more processing power. I don't want to be connected to the internet with Steam because I don't play multi-player games and I don't chat. I just play a few games. So I'm really jarateed off that I had to install your application. I set your application to "Offline" mode. Now every time I boot my computer, I get a freakin pop up telling me I'm in Offline mode. Thanks to your arrogance, I've gone from not wanting Steam to loathing STEAM!!!
To Firaxis:
The only reason I installed Steam in the first place was because I wanted to play your game. SHAME ON YOU for forcing me to install this bloated, big-brother arrogant piece of crap software just to play your game. There HAS to be a better way to distribute software digitally that big-brother app like this. I'd rather buy a DVD in the store than install more bloatware.
Steam has prettymuch saved PC gaming from death all by itself. Stop pining for the past glory days of PC gaming where they actually took up prime real estate in stores and accept the current reality.
Without steam PC gaming has a terrible distribution channel and a terrible chance of getting the sales that will keep quality PC games around (such as Civ5, yeh I went there!).
You can run Steam without an internet connection. I also strongly contest your accusation the "rest of us" can't live without constantly being connected to the net. Somehow, I manage just fine when I don't have internet or am not using it (neither do I use twitter or have a "smart"phone).I understand the need for Steam, unfortunately. It was, in part, the ---holes that kept pirating games that forced more rigid DRM. Personally, I prefer not even to have access to the internet while playing a SP game or doing anything that is not web related. I do not trust the internet but I use it frequently. I do not want or require more interactivity and I continue to be more shocked and sadden by the rest of you that can't live with being connected ALL OF THE TIME. What is your life and well-being like when you cannot connect? Or that it becomes a security and privacy issue?
Like any game, its been pirated. However that hasn't stopped sales and Steam sells a lot of games despite piracy. Nobody in the industry releases exact numbers, but Civ5 is one of the most played games on Steam and has been since it was released. That doesn't indicate that Surgeon is completely wrong as he has a very valid point, although the whole "PC gaming is dying" argument is old and tiresome, as it has been happily "dying" since the 1980s. Many retail stores (who, at least in the UK, are whining about Steam doing well) barely give any attention to their PC selection, it is often poorly organized and unadvertised compared to the console games, if the store even has a PC selection! And they wonder why they aren't selling well...I disagree with what you are saying simply because this game has been pirated since day one.
I disagree with what you are saying simply because this game has been pirated since day one.
You can run Steam without an internet connection. I also strongly contest your accusation the "rest of us" can't live without constantly being connected to the net. Somehow, I manage just fine when I don't have internet or am not using it (neither do I use twitter or have a "smart"phone).
You can turn off the notifications in the Settings menu. This is a non-issue nor does it make it malware or adware.Steam does get in the way, and it's definitely adware/malware in the sense that it's constantly popping up with special deals and ads that I'm not interested in and didn't ask for.
Right now its using less than 6 MBs of RAM on my computer. If you have it open with the Steam store loaded and community page (they are only fully loaded up when you specifically select them) then yes it will use more, upwards of 70 MBs, however even then it shouldn't affect your game at all, and its easy enough to close the main window before you start a game/the game starts after you click play.Right now it's doing "nothing" in the background still using 70Mb of my RAM - hardly the well-oiled non-invasive program that people are suggesting it is. How is it any different to some random toolbar that payloads itself into your browser when certain applications are installed?
Yep, this is one of my favourite parts of SteamI'll give steam one huge thumbs up though - and that is that I don't need the DVD in my drive anymore. My Civ4 and CivRev disks are looking seriously ratty.
The only people that love steam are people that are...
1.Too lazy to drive to the store and buy a physical copy
2.Too inept to install a patch manually
Steam wants a monopoly on pc gaming and are helping kill the used pc game market.
Steam could vanish like a fart in the wind and pc gaming would still thrive.
All the 13yr old wii generation players love it tho.......
Have you ever played Team Fortress 2, or has 'jarate' become so common now that even non-TF2-playing people use it?
Steam is a convenience whose price is too high..its like buying a maintenance warranty on a car that dictates when you can drive, who you can drive with and only allows you to get your car serviced or buy options from certain mechanics
I think the most upseting thing is the human lesson. This experience has shown that civers dont care about their fellow civver. You'd think we'd be able to agree as a community that if some people dont like something that something shouldnt be forced on our fellow players.
I disagree with what you are saying simply because this game has been pirated since day one.
I think the most upseting thing is the human lesson. This experience has shown that civers dont care about their fellow civver. You'd think we'd be able to agree as a community that if some people dont like something that something shouldnt be forced on our fellow players.
I will agree with you that things such as Steam shouldn't be forced onto those who do not want it, simply because people have different tastes, different desires and different opinions.
With larger files on the net, and more services for online downloading of movies, programs, games... these can be very large file sizes. More ISP's are turning to bandwidth limits per month. Comcast is one of, if not, the largest internet providers in the United States. They have a limit per month. Download some movies on your PS3, download a few games on steam, oops, you hit your limit. Your account is now suspended, if it happens again, they ban you from their services.
It's just a cut and paste from the Steam forum: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1590470
Jarate is just another word Valve uses to replace other censored words that aren't considered swear words.