Did you know that the Clan of Embers is the only civ that is unable to get orc champions? As any other civ, captured barbarian warriors and axemen can be upgraded into champions. They look just like the players regular champions, but they do retain the orc promotion. To add to the fun, Clan warriors and axemen get to upgrade into goblin ridden chariots. Oh, and these chariots are pulled by wolves but require horses. Okay, those are all really cosmetic issues, but a little polish never hurts. For starters, reinstate the graphics for orc champions. This would take care of one graphical hiccup. The art is currently in use by Rantine, but I'm of the mind that he could use something a bit more heroic anyways. I've devoted at one thread to that issue before. Perhaps is should be revisited. As for the chariots, the Clan chariot appears to be a separate unit and not just a unique graphic placed over the normal one. The civilopedia even says that it replaces chariots. If that's the case, it's upgrade tree could probably be edited to not include axemen. This would certainly put players that rely on the axeman to chariot switch, but I like how it plays into Clan's caste system. To give players something to do with their axemen, why not let them upgrade into champions? Champions would still not be a buildable unit (who would want them when you've got ogres?) but it does give the Clan player something to do with all those survivors. To further mess with orc champions, give them a level requirement. This would work well flavor-wise and orc champions would literally be champions. Only battle tested orcs would be able to rise to this rank, the few survivors of the hordes produced by the warrens. Given that the Clan player is left with little choices but to go heavy on down the iron line, I feel a little extra polish on that end of things would be in order. Ogres marching alongside leftover axemen and exalted champions makes for a nice bit of horde flavor. At the very least, polishing up the graphical hiccups would be nice. Thanks for any and all replies.