So we were talking about this in a different thread about how this tenet could be reworked. Currently it is: +34% Tourism to other Order Civs, and +5 Tourism from all Great Works. Spies steal Tech at double the normal rate. My issue is mainly that +5 tourism on GW isn't that helpful for wide civs, it's rare you have a lot of GW anyway. Also the spies stealing tech seems a little strange, doesn't really fit with the rest of the bonuses to tourism. I have a couple of ideas, these wouldn't be the full tenet but parts of it. 1. Most of the time if I'm going for a wide CV, then the strategy is to use high culture tiles and then hotels and other buildings that convert tile culture into tourism. Polynesia especially uses this strategy but a lot of civs can do it, I heard someone talk about doing it with Byzantium recently. So, the tenet could somehow help with that. It could be "10% of the culture from tiles in each city is turned into tourism", so basically a mini-hotel in every city. Or even simpler, a cost reduction to hotels and a reduction to their maintenance, which is pretty high. This tenet will be more specific to a strategy but remember this won't be the tenet alone, it will probably have additional things in it, and if someone isn't going that strategy they could just not take the tenet regardless. 2. Another way to do it is a reduction to the tourism malus you get from cities. Currently you get something like -7% tourism per city (I don't remember exactly), this could reduce that to 5-6%. This would be a more general bonus that works to any CV strategy, unlike the last suggestion. The main problem with Wide Tourism is exactly that you have an explicit negative modifier for tourism, which makes sense. But reducing it could help a lot as that is the main problem wide tourism faces. Those are my suggestions. Again, they won't be a full tenet on their own probably, but it would be mixed with other suggestions/what currently exists. I'd like to hear what your suggestions are. I heard pineappledan suggest a tourism process, to convert the production Order has into Tourism, which sounds good to me.