I had intended for my previous post to be the final one. But my goodness! It can't be that you explained yourself poorly, or that I did, or one of us failed a reading comprehension check: you go right to intentional strawman. I don't even see a strawman at all: If you meant something significantly different, I *still* don't see it. ("Clouded by perspective" might be pertinent. But I don't know if it's offered to clarify previous statements, or if it's backpedaling, or what. ) And note, please, that what I was responding to was three of my words followed by question marks, a claim of fact, and a supporting example that - IMO - could hardly be more dubious. If you don't supply much argument for you claims don't be surprised if someone else takes a stab at it. Or if they get it wrong. You should thank them for their grand-motherly kindness and take the opportunity to correct any misapprehensions. That, rather than pull the trigger on intentional strawman. But that's just my perspective as someone who doesn't like being called dishonest. I guess you gave a self-fulfilling prophecy on OT never being nice. And... (yes, this *is* rubbing it in)... And right after those high-minded posts where you write of troll bait. For me it'd be hard top the quoted statement above. This one is really and truly it: Take as given a sarcastic denial of any further accusations or claims you might make about my position.