Other Enjoyable Civilization V Games (Immortal and below)

[FritsF1]

Finished OECG#7 turn233 CV

Spoiler :

I settled my first expo (Tiwanaku) far to the south because of the luxuries, the mountain and it seemed like a good defendable place. This of course brought me close to the Americans. The Americans where the biggest problem this game, they really wanted some more land and the Inca land was the closed. To make matters worse, I tend to build as few weapons as possible because they cost hammers and gold.

The first time Washington moved CB’s pikemen and a catapult to my borders, war could be avoided. I had 3 CB’s city walls and made some trades to improve Washington’s opinion of me.

The second time the Americans came to the border with XB’s and knights there was no way I could persuade Washington to go elsewhere. We had a fight, I killed some of his units and made peace to early. I should have killed way more units. There were a lot of antiquity sites in and around the American borders and I wanted all of them. Just when I was ready to dig it up, our peace treaty was about to expire and there were again a lot of American units at my border. I was ready to pay Washington a lot to go to war elsewhere, but just in time he decided to go to war with the Mongols without my persuasion, so the threat was gone.

After that I could comfortably turtle, Washington denounced me and proposed my religion as world religion in the same turn, which was nice of him. Despite our differences we stayed at peace for the rest of the game.
There was only some fighting with barbarians coming out of unhappy America.

All in all I did not miss the coal so much, for me the challenge was how to deal with the Americans.

Thanx for the game, it was indeed enjoyable.

 

[Nizef]

Here is a list of the OECG series so far:

1. Russia (King, Pangaea, Quick speed, Small size, Unmodded)
2. the Mayans (Emperor, Great Plains Plus, Epic speed, Large size, Unmodded)
3. Egypt (Emperor, Pangaea, Quick speed, Small size, Unmodded)
4. the Ottomans (Prince, Archipelago, Standard speed, Standard size, Unmodded)
5. Germany (Emperor, Hellblazer´s Pangaea, Quick speed, Small size, Modded with Hellblazer´s map pack (v.8))
6. Ethiopia (King, Pangaea, Quick speed, Small size, Unmodded)
7. the Incas (Emperor, Frontier, Quick speed, Small size, Unmodded
8. the Papal States (Emperor, Pangaea, Quick speed, Standard size, Modded civ to play otherwise unmodded)
9. the Shoshone (Immortal, Pangaea, Quick speed, Small size, Unmodded)

 

[zxcvbob]

How about a Gandhi Liberty game, or at least Gandhi and you cannot open Tradition until you've filled another policy tree? (which pretty much rules out Hanging Gardens) I get in a Tradition rut and like to mix it up occasionally. (but maybe I'm the only one.) India seems like the obvious choice because early game its UA works against fast expansion but you can work around that if you're careful. Late game, the UA is awesome and synergizes well with Liberty.

 

[Nizef]

How about a Gandhi Liberty game, or at least Gandhi and you cannot open Tradition until you've filled another policy tree? (which pretty much rules out Hanging Gardens) I get in a Tradition rut and like to mix it up occasionally. (but maybe I'm the only one.) India seems like the obvious choice because early game its UA works against fast expansion but you can work around that if you're careful. Late game, the UA is awesome and synergizes well with Liberty.

Please go ahead, if you have something to share. I like the idea, but the latest contribution in the EDGE series was with India and it was an absolute pain to get something going with Gandhi. I might need a break from him to calm my nerves.

 

[Nizef]

OECG#10: Not Gandhi

Here comes an easy task with huge possibilities. We play as Austria on Prince level on an unmodded Pangaea map with Standard size and Quick speed and all VCs are enabled and QM and QC are turned on as usual. You might need to use your elbows in the early game but after that this will be smooth. As a comparison I won a CV on t199 without Internet, only finishing NVC on t198, without SS or Futurism (I went Freedom) and without International Games. I was making 1800+ Culture per turn and I had most wonders in the game. Not difficult but it was actually very fun. The AIs were handpicked for their regional relevance. Good luck and have fun!

 

[zxcvbob]

Please go ahead, if you have something to share. I like the idea, but the latest contribution in the EDGE series was with India and it was an absolute pain to get something going with Gandhi. I might need a break from him to calm my nerves.

What is EDGE?

I've been playing India Liberty for a few days. They start slow, but usually end up in a violent science victory with culture as the backup plan. I've done Freedom, Order, and Autocracy, and they all work. Austria was my nemesis in the one I just finished. So I "Just One More Turn"ed and killed exterminated her

 

[Nizef]

What is EDGE?

The thread Enjoyable Deity Games.

 

[raider980]

OECG 7 The Inca Diplo Victory T246
Another fun one. The Inca is one of my favorites to play. Movement on hills, no road cost on hills and terrace farms are incredible (and look cool too). By the broad definition of "mostly" peaceful I was able to create an awesome Incan empire and win with a Diplo Victory despite someone conquering some CS.

Spoiler :

It is a nice starting location so I SiP - two wheat, 3 pearls and a 3 mountain terrace farm in the second ring. Then as I explored my eyes got big with dreams of the multitudes of terrace farms I could build. So I decided to expand as fast as I could. Just like @FritsF1, I sent my first settler down south to secure the Dye and Wine. I also founded Machu to the east of the mountain range on the marble near Florence on T66.

When I saw two tiles with 4 mountain terrace farm potential to the east of my southern city, I wondered if I could beat Washington to it. Luckily there was a barb camp in that vicinity so Washington got a settler captured. I had built 4 CB because I was having barb issues. So when I realized America only had NY and DC in the vicinity, both with low defense strength, I realized I had to remove the invaders from the rightful Incan lands.

T66 I took NYC and T85 I took Washington. He still had Boston but I had crippled him so he was no longer a threat the rest of the game. I ended up razing NYC and building my own city, near all those sweet terrace farm spots on T96 (there is actually 3 Coal here). I founded my final city on the west coast on T105.

As the game progressed I realized I wouldn't have enough votes to win the first WL vote because Genghis had captured 3 CS. So I started building up an army to go liberate them. Unfortunately, Spain liberated one of them before I could get to it. I wasn't fast enough to make it by the first vote.

As I got my army in position, Polynesia attacked Mombosa so I had to hurry. I joined the fray and almost had it - but noooo, my knight failed to take it with a tiny sliver of red left. So Polynesia go it; but they took it, didn't liberate it. So of course I had to declare war on them to liberate Mombasa. I did so on the next turn. But now my army was sandwiched between Mongolia and Polynesia and I still had one more CS to liberate, Kiev.

It was a fun fight, 2 v 1. My army took some losses but I prevailed and Genghis offered me peace - and offered me Kiev in the deal! I took it and liberated Kiev. Turns out I didn't really need it because by this time I had gotten Globalization, but it was a fun fight anyway. Victory at the second WL vote T246.

Spoiler Diplo Victory T246 :

 

[zxcvbob]

On that new Austria game, I got a culture victory on turn 261 or 262. I thought I was going to get it 5 turns earlier but the concert only gave me a couple of turns worth of tourism -- probably a function of the quick speed. If I had known that, I would have bought 2 or 3 musicians instead of just one.

Spoiler :

Early game, I forward settled Netherlands and was planning to declare war on William. But his land was pretty defensible and his city was strong and I didn't want to declare before I was ready. Meanwhile, Poland sent a great prophet at me with 4 zaps left, and I decide to declare on him instead and use the prophet for a holy site. This was pretty safe diplomatically because everyone hated Casimir; he was being an *******. Warsaw looked easy to grab, so I captured it since I was at war already Then we made peace. That was the only war I was in the whole game.

I was friends with everybody (except Poland, of course) and had open borders with everyone and quite a few research agreements. I built lots of wonders; at least one in each city before taking the "Flourishing of the Arts" policy in Aesthetics. William was the only other real culture contender so it took a while to overtake him, but the International Games, NVC, and Internet all came together at the same time right at the end; it was faster to wait it out rather than declare war.

I married one other CS just offscreen to secure some oil; Ormus I think. Then I didn't need any oil.

 

[Nizef]

OECG#11: Theodora for President (Freedom challenge)

As you already understood from the headline, we are playing as Byzantium on King level on an unmodded Pangaea map with Standard size and Quick speed and all VCs are enabled and QM and QC are turned on as usual. The start is absolutely enjoyable and you can even go for OCC if you want to. The map offers a couple of surprises as well. It took me until t203 to get a CV, but as usual, I did a little of everything, taking out my neighbour and other minor details. You will not likely get many better opportunities with Theodora so do the best you can and go in any direction. However, your Ideology must be Freedom. Good luck and have fun!

 

[zxcvbob]

OECG#11: Theodora for President (Freedom challenge)

As you already understood from the headline, we are playing as Byzantium on King level on an unmodded Pangaea map with Standard size and Quick speed and all VCs are enabled and QM and QC are turned on as usual. The start is absolutely enjoyable and you can even go for OCC if you want to. The map offers a couple of surprises as well. It took me until t203 to get a CV, but as usual, I did a little of everything, taking out my neighbour and other minor details. You will not likely get many better opportunities with Theodora so do the best you can and go in any direction. However, your Ideology must be Freedom. Good luck and have fun!

I'm about 260 turns into this one. I decided to go full Honor instead of the more normal Tradition, Liberty, or even Piety opener, just to be different. Honor, Aesthetics, Rationalism, Freedom. One of the AI's has totally run away with the game and is bullying everyone except me, and I'm a distant #2 in points. We are about evenly matched in tech and she has a larger military. I have about 5 cities (they are awesome cities) and she has about 20. I just seized control of the World Congress and I'm about to declare war. The first major battle will be at sea, and that should even the odds. I'm planning to raze most of her cities so I will have to pace myself in that regard. This should be exciting

ETA: it was exciting at first but getting tedious. I was planning to go for a timed victory, but think I'll just build the spaceship and get it over with. I am dominating everybody in culture except Austria. Because of the map layout, capturing all of her cities will take a long time. It was a fun game, i just dragged it out too long

 

[FritsF1]

OECG#11 Byzantium OCC t257 CV

Spoiler :

There was a suggestion in the announcement about a OCC possibility. I never did a OCC, so why not? It was self-imposed so I don’t know the OCC rules exactly. Not building a settler seems obvious but can you conquer AI cities or is there only a peaceful way to win? I tried to keep on the safe side and played as strict as possible and sticked to one city only.

The Assyrians were a bit annoying so I was tempted to take over some of there cities but never did. There where a few wars: Somewhere before turn 100 when the Assyrians marched an army towards me with their siege equipment. I DoW before they could reach my city. After that they DoW to some of my CS allies. Near the end of the game I had to liberate a CS ally.

At first the plan was to ally as much CS as possible which made a DiploV possible at turn t247. I was curious how much tourism could be achieved with only one city (quite a lot!) so I didn’t vote for myself as world leader and played on for a CV at turn 257.

Part of the fun in Civ is planning the expos. It was fun to try a OCC but I’m not going to make a habit out of it

 

[Nizef]

OECG#12: The GDR Challenge (A challenge to win a DomV by capturing every foreign capital with a Giant Death Robot)

I hope I bring something unique to the table this time. At least I have not done anything like this before. We are playing as Babylon on Warlord level on an unmodded Pangaea map with Standard size and Quick speed and all VCs are enabled and QM and QC are turned on as usual. The start is OP and winning on this level is of course not very demanding. But here the idea is to more or less turtle all the way to Nuclear Fusion and only attack the AIs once you get GDRs. I must admit that I "cheated" myself, because I conquered Siam very early on, before I even got the idea for this challenge. But after figuring out what I wanted to do here, I turtled for almost 190 turns (when I got the tech) and then conquered six capitals in 10 turns, winning on t199. I hope that you will fulfil the whole challenge and let also Ram live until the end... Furthermore, you will need to manage your culture and tourism, so that you do not accidentally win a CV instead. This is CivV in a way you have rarely played it. Enjoy the ride!

 

[zxcvbob]

I'm about 200 turns into OECG12. Playing totally peaceful so far, even tho' I've been invited to participate in lots of wars. I did denounce Dido recently because she's a jerk, and she will be my first target; I don't think she's stupid enough to declare war on me. I'm in the information era (entered via Satellites) and now beelining Nuclear Fusion. I probably didn't start bulbing great scientists as soon as I should.

I was a little concerned there wouldn't be any uranium, but I had a tiny amount plus I bought (MoV) a CS that had access to some. (Borders hadn't grown to it yet and I was afraid they might not) I have purposely not built any hotels nor themed my great works to avoid an accidental CV but I'm still influential over one or two civs.

Spoiler Total domination turn 248 :

Even before I started my warpath people started denouncing me because I destroyed a city state they were protecting. (I did nothing of the kind, I bought it with a merchant of Venice) It wasn't ideology hate because I was the only one who picked an ideology (Order, because I had coal.) Oh, well, they were not in any position to do anything about it

I decided to capture every AI city on the map. I annexed about half, and razed a few and puppetted a few. I had to be careful not to get an accidental CV; not building hotels was a wise move, even an airport in Babylon might have put me over the top there.

I was going to liberate a few cities but then they would vote for me for world leader and I didn't want that. I captured 4 cities (two of them capitals) on my last turn. Delhi was the last to fall because I had to save it for last.

Tradition, Patronage, Rationalism, Order (Iron Curtain), and Commerce.

I'm gonna try this again on my faster computer, going Liberty this time instead of Tradition.

 

[Nizef]

OECG#13: Mountains all over

Let me be frank: the map is hostile. However, here we play as one of the more interesting civs, namely Spain. The level is Emperor and we play on an unmodded Pangaea map with Standard size and Quick speed and all VCs are enabled and QM and QC are turned on as usual. But there are only a few spots for reasonable expansions. Use those and then you can of course always conquer some cities if you like. As a benchmark, I found two NWs before any AI in the early game (and a third in the late game). That boosted my game nicely and I could pull away from the AIs with three cities only. I played peacefully and eventually won a CV on t192. However, in this game you can go in any direction you want. I am sure you will like this game, since here Isabella is more of a hit than a miss! Enjoy!

 

[Nizef]

OECG#14: Religion all over (CV and religion challenge)

Here we go again. This time with a modded civ and to the surprise of nobody we play as Finland https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=351729439. The level is Emperor and we play on an unmodded Lakes map with Standard size and Quick speed and all VCs are enabled and QM and QC are turned on as usual. Here the idea is to win a CV and you should try to spread your religion as much as possible. As a benchmark (see picture), my religion was the majority religion in 28/36 cities that had a religion. This means 77,8% coverage. Quite nice! The minimi goal is to achive 50% coverage. I won a CV on t188 and a secondary target should be to win before t250. I would also hope that you choose Freedom as your ideology. The start is nice and it will make different early strategies possible. This is perhaps not the most demanding game but you will need to put a little extra effort into spreading your religion. But as always, the main rule is to have fun so a war assisted CV is also "allowed". Enjoy the music from "Finlandia" and you should be able to generate a few Rune Singers as well. Have fun!

 

[zxcvbob]

OECG#13: Mountains all over

Let me be frank: the map is hostile. However, here we play as one of the more interesting civs, namely Spain. The level is Emperor and we play on an unmodded Pangaea map with Standard size and Quick speed and all VCs are enabled and QM and QC are turned on as usual. But there are only a few spots for reasonable expansions. Use those and then you can of course always conquer some cities if you like. As a benchmark, I found two NWs before any AI in the early game (and a third in the late game). That boosted my game nicely and I could pull away from the AIs with three cities only. I played peacefully and eventually won a CV on t192. However, in this game you can go in any direction you want. I am sure you will like this game, since here Isabella is more of a hit than a miss! Enjoy!

Science victory on turn 248. I was also doing pretty well towards a culture victory and a diplomatic victory.

Spoiler :

I settled 4 cities, then took one from Caesar when he declared war on me and it didn't quite go as he planned. That war also earned me a great general, which came in handy to procure some aluminum.

Tradition, Aesthetics, Rationalism, Freedom(Treaty Organization first, and then Space Procurements), and Commerce. I only found one NW first, and none that I could settle, but that one was pretty early (Kilimanjaro) and I used the gold to buy a settler with a little money left over to keep me afloat in the classical era where money is tight.

I probably should have annexed Neapolis instead of leaving it a puppet. I only kept it because it had a new luxury (citrus), but then it ended up having oil and uranium.

 

[zxcvbob]

OECG#14: Religion all over (CV and religion challenge)

Here we go again. This time with a modded civ and to the surprise of nobody we play as Finland https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=351729439. The level is Emperor and we play on an unmodded Lakes map with Standard size and Quick speed and all VCs are enabled and QM and QC are turned on as usual. Here the idea is to win a CV and you should try to spread your religion as much as possible. As a benchmark (see picture), my religion was the majority religion in 28/36 cities that had a religion. This means 77,8% coverage. Quite nice! The minimi goal is to achive 50% coverage. I won a CV on t188 and a secondary target should be to win before t250. I would also hope that you choose Freedom as your ideology. The start is nice and it will make different early strategies possible. This is perhaps not the most demanding game but you will need to put a little extra effort into spreading your religion. But as always, the main rule is to have fun so a war assisted CV is also "allowed". Enjoy the music from "Finlandia" and you should be able to generate a few Rune Singers as well. Have fun!

I had never played this civ before, so I downloaded it and started a practice game. I'm on about turn 120. Not sure what I think; I haven't gotten any runes yet. When I try to load the game from a save, the game crashes *unless* I go in through the MODS menu (Next, Single Player, Load Game) Then it works. (it should work without that, but this is doable) Just thought I'd mention it in case anyone else has that problem trying to load OECG14, especially after you've been playing for a while.

 

[Nizef]

I had never played this civ before, so I downloaded it and started a practice game. I'm on about turn 120. Not sure what I think; I haven't gotten any runes yet. When I try to load the game from a save, the game crashes *unless* I go in through the MODS menu (Next, Single Player, Load Game) Then it works. (it should work without that, but this is doable) Just thought I'd mention it in case anyone else has that problem trying to load OECG14, especially after you've been playing for a while.

Good to know and thank you for sharing. We used it in the EDGE thread as well (MIDGE#1 (Modded Interesting Deity Games Experience)) and I can´t recall anybody having reported anything like that.

 

[zxcvbob]

I'm not loving this "religious victory" thing. One of the AI's seems to be trying the same thing. My missionaries are a lot stronger than his (Evangelism) but it's still tedious. I guess I could kill him, but then no more open borders with anybody else. And a couple other AIs have their own religions that they are kinda pushing to nearby city states, so I have to keep reconverting those.