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Discussion in 'Civ4 - CIV Gold' started by Wyz_sub10, Sep 27, 2006.

  1. Love

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    I think that maybe you could make scenarios?
    One for each part of the world.
     
  2. purplexus

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    I would think that Civ Gold Is really here to be a base for a huge Modder's Dream. A lot of Ideas that you all have is Great. Me, myself would like to see many of them implemented. But all it takes is for 1 stupid stinkin Mod i hate..... and I wouldn't want to see this Mod anymore. I think this mod has to remain simple and that many would have to make modifications on their own.
     
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    Can you please make special abilities for the UUs?
     
  5. Wyz_sub10

    Wyz_sub10 CIV Gold - Project Lead

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    What did you have in mind? Do you mean new promotion types or something different?
     
  6. Love

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    Maybe, When i was looking in civolopedia the Karolin hasent got any special abilities.

    In the vanilla civ all of the UUs has got special abilities like conquaistador who can get defence bonus.
     
  7. Wyz_sub10

    Wyz_sub10 CIV Gold - Project Lead

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    Karolin doesn't because it is much, much cheaper to produce. This is the unit Wazdix designed, and I though it was a pretty good trade off.

    Compare, for example, the French Musketeer and the regular musketman to the Karolin.
     
  8. Love

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    Ok, maybe.

    But it was a Spearman UU that hasent got any special....
    Ehh watta heck, still evry UU hasent got any special abilities.
     
  9. Edgecrusher

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    Your more then welcome to create your own UU, with whatever features you want if you dont like the ones provided by this Free Mod where people donate their time to build.
     
  10. Love

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    Im sorry Edgecrusher if i hurted you when i came whith suggestions for making the mod better.
     
  11. Edgecrusher

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    gandhi, im fine
    I mearly suggested that with your personal ideas on what to change, the mod can be made better.

    for instane, adding "special' abilities was a good start. but sine, the team 'didnt meet your standards', we humblely ask you for your expert advice in ths matter.
     
  12. Wyz_sub10

    Wyz_sub10 CIV Gold - Project Lead

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    I don't mind adding a special to the Karolin, as long as it makes sense. The idea behind it now was that they were drawn from the general population - not necessarily more skilled, but more combat ready. For this reason, you can build them much faster.

    What special would you give them?
     
  13. Love

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    free promotion, pinch?
     
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    Wyz_sub10 CIV Gold - Project Lead

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    I'll have to check the balance. The Karolin replaces the Musketman in CIV Gold.

    Compare Musketman to the French Musketeer UU:

    Musketman = 9 Str / 1 move / 80 build
    Musketeer = 9 Str / 2 move / 80 build

    The French UU gets only +1 move as a bonus. "Pinch" might be a little too much, by comparison, for the Karolin.

    Mind you, I think the Musketeer is way underpowered. Maybe a change to both of them...?
     
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    Take off so its one move and pinch

    Musketman = 9 Str / 1 move / 80 build
    Musketeer = 9 Str / 2 move / 80 build
    Karlin = 9 Str / 1 move / 80 build and starts with pinch (good balance whith leader got aggressive too)
     
  16. Edgecrusher

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    Gandhi, I think the point is this:

    Take off so its one move and pinch

    Musketman = 9 Str / 1 move / 80 build
    Musketeer = 9 Str / 2 move / 80 build
    Karlin = 9 Str / 1 move / 80 build and starts with pinch (good balance whith leader got aggressive too)

    The Karlin, werent well trained soldiers, they were quick to assemble countryment that could be roused quickly, but werent as efficient as a regular.

    With that said... the UU and abilities should make sense. So why would a historically poorly trained soldier, gain a 25% advantage toward a regular of the same type?. It seems to me it should be the other way around.
     
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    Ok, but they did dominate the battlefields, what for ability?
     
  18. Hitti-Litti

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    Karolin's could have less hammers to build.
     
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    I think the point of this is that they do cost less hammers to build already. The discussion is as to what else there should be.
    Personally, I think it's fine as it is. ;) But whatever works for as many people as possible is fine by me :D
     
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    Take the question logically, why did they dominate? Superior Training? Overwhelming numbers? a "special" contraption that gave them an edge (ala greek fire in ancient warfare).

    I dont think "Pitch" is good (or any of the +25% bonuses simply because they didnt have superior training. or a special contraption to give them an edge.

    Which leaves us with the 2nd option: Overwhelming Numbers.

    If one nation can assmeple an enormous army, (of soldiers that arent as well traned) quicker then an army of normal sized army.... then yea... they would have a slight edge.

    In simplier terms 3 Warriors > 1 Warrior. yea you may loose 1, but, the army will still win.
     

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