Hi, Supossing u have strongly cottaged citie mostly with rivertiles(f.e. http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/2966/roosevelt4000bcturn1.jpg in this thread) do you ever go for Oxford+Ironworks? Or it is rather better to Ironwork other city, workshoped/mined/riversided. Some of my recent games start in a valley of curving river :] So I did it once or two, but supposingly I didn't play the right civic, so my question is: How to make the best of it? What are the criteria you will choose for best use of civics? Buearocracy seems obvius, but what about huge empires with more cottages? free Speech seems better. On the other hand, if we already have +100% commerce(science) and +100% hammers, does +50% each is really worth running? if any of u has experience with running such a capital, I will be grateful if u share it EDIT: Of course Universal Sufrage is a must to get 2 hammer towns grass tiles PS. I used to build research there most of the time... any better ideas?