There has been some interest in me doing a game with the objective of getting to space as quickly as possible. My own interest is experimenting with getting to space as fast as possible without using Oxford. Recently someone mentioned Sumeria. I like the idea. The game would have to be played along semi-HoF lines and Sumeria is least likely to be used of HoF purposes. The notion of using Sumeria without Oxford is utterly preposterous. Sounds like a challenge! To do a thread for such a game requires some input as Mapfinder will have to generate the starting save. Inital thoughts: Buffy mod should be used or any mod that locks assets. (No world builder.) Some choice in settings should be allowed. I'm open to ideas. However I would insist on some basics: no huts, no random events, normal speed, standard map size. No barbs is desirable but not necessary. Offer suggestions. I'm leaning toward making the attempt on either an inland sea or great plains map. Noble level with a target date of 1550 AD may be ambitious enough. The target date will be the most important part of the challenge. Just for kicks: no markets, banks or universities can be built. So is there any interest in following this kind of game?