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"Passive" Invasions

Discussion in 'Civ3 - Strategy & Tips' started by Crow T Robot, Dec 29, 2004.

  1. Gaian Knight

    Gaian Knight Chieftain

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    Somehow, probably just me.. but I presume the result of all this 'wasn't' to worry about a Diplomatic win.

    Course if it was, had better had the Domination choice checked as well.. :crazyeye:

    Either way, gotta love the 'realism' factor the programmers threw in. =--=
     
  2. Bluemofia

    Bluemofia F=ma

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    I make massive demands and then declare war. unless if they gave me a GPT deal
     
  3. Randy

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    It's great idea, I've used it in the past. If it helps you win who care what it's called.

    But I think it is just having troops in the AI's land and opps now we are at war.
     
  4. dgfred

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    I feel the same ;) , no exploits or rep hits for me. If I was already at war I
    would use this tactic though :mischief: , nice planning anyway :goodjob: .
     
  5. ybbor

    ybbor Will not change his avata

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    i also don't sneak attack (not out of morals, but because i like my attitude [IIRC, you get an attitude hit if you have troops in their territory but no ROP, and a rep hit if you do]), although i'll still probably use this, the benifit is just too good :goodjob:

    @tomoyo: how is it different than if a military unit were top go in and was not forced to get out?
     
  6. Tomoyo

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    What is "it"?
     
  7. ybbor

    ybbor Will not change his avata

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    what is this, verbal tenis ;)

    the stragy posted one the first post
     
  8. Tomoyo

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    Then "it" is different when you have a military unit because in my only acceptable situation you have to declare war beforehand, so without the military unit, the settler dies.
     
  9. Yuri2356

    Yuri2356 Test Screening

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    Unless the devine RNG smiles uppon you, and blesses your settler by allowing the AI to ignore it. (which can be made far more likley with proper planning)
     
  10. Pfeffersack

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    But thats rather unlikely if you are in the age of railroads...every railroaded tile can be reached without movement cost.
     
  11. Bluemofia

    Bluemofia F=ma

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    unless if you do a turn or 2 of costal bombardment and shell those rails into dust.
     
  12. satchel

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    I didn't understand this comment at first. But I guess what you are saying is that the settler would be dead if you dumped it undefended in enemy territory and then let it sit there a turn before establishing the city. I suppose that dumping an undefended settler this way before you have declared war is what the original poster proposed, and I agree with you that it is in the spirit of RoP rape - I don't do it.

    If I am already at war, however, I have been known to found a city within enemy lines, using a defended settler of course. Some still consider this in the spirit of RoP rape - I recall a lengthy debate about this a few years back when Moonsinger introduced her settler advancement tactic. So I'm asking, Tomoyo (and others), do you consider it RoP rape?
     
  13. Tomoyo

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    Yes. The "bubble chamber" tactic isn't really ROP rape, to me. It's just a different exploit. However, just plain founding in AI territory at war is not.
     
  14. Yuri2356

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    Or provide a number of 'decoys' in other parts of enemy territory which will attract more attention than some poor, defenseless settler. (Finaly, a use for paratroopers)
     
  15. Tomoyo

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    A settler will attract more attention than a paratrooper.
     
  16. Yuri2356

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    Paratroopers are just examples. Any number of Units couls be used which would provide sufficent distraction to an AI. Bombardment and proper planning could be employed as well to ensure that no enemy unit could possibly react the settler before it founds a city.
     
  17. Bluemofia

    Bluemofia F=ma

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    ais attack weak and defenseless units first. then they go after the things that defend themselves.
     
  18. Yuri2356

    Yuri2356 Test Screening

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    Then throw in some slave workers, and spread them out so they can't kill them all with one unit.
     
  19. Bluemofia

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    I prefer to shell their coast
     
  20. Yuri2356

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    That was plan 'A'...
     

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