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Patch 1.20 To Be Released Soon [Released 8/1]

Discussion in 'CivRev - General Discussions' started by Padma, Jul 22, 2008.

  1. Padma

    Padma the Absent Admin Administrator Supporter

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    I'm putting this out as a general info. If you have any problems with what is (or isn't) planned for the patch, please respond to the original thread at the 2K forums.

     
  2. shadowplay

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    I have 11 Xbox 360 games, and Revolution is the only one that requires patches.

    Sigh. Not having to deal with that was part of the beauty of consoles.
     
  3. plasticbeast

    plasticbeast Chieftain

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    You are joking right? what 11 games do you have? Most of my games for the 360 eventually get a patch of some kind.
     
  4. Killer Moogle

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    Ditto. I think almost every game I have on 360 has been patched/updated at least once.
     
  5. shadowplay

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    My bad. My 360 isn't connected to the internet and I don't pay enough attention to the other games.
     
  6. trotty

    trotty Cabarettista ghei

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    You have a console and e pc and you bought civ for the console?!?!??!?! OMG.....
     
  7. Double Barrel

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    I've almost got every version of Civ (i.e. II-IV + expansions) and I bought Civ:Rev. Something about a 51" HD with wireless controllers in my comfy easy chair is just niiiiiiiice. ;)
     
  8. NikNak

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    Unfortunately, this generation of console games is following the same "ship and patch later" mentality that a lot of PC games have been following for years. I guess adding the ability to easily patch, encourages the practice.
     
  9. Killer Moogle

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    I totally agree, and am willing to take that one step further. I think sometimes games have all of the content made (additional map packs, DLC, what-have-you), but they just don't put in the $60.00 game so they can make another $10.00 to $20.00 bucks down the line. Of course, I'll still pay it if I love the game, but the ability to patch/update online gives companies an easy way to fleece consumers for some extra dough.
     
  10. Double Barrel

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    I've played console and PC games for many years. I have always appreciated the ability to patch with PC games, because the reality is that console games have always had flaws, but we were stuck with them because there was no option to update. The fact is that no game will be perfect when it ships, and only recently have consoles been given the bonus of improving gameplay.
     
  11. NikNak

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    Sure, patches can sometimes be great, but it's hard to argue that the ability to patch doesn't factor in the decision on when to ship a product. Back when console games were impossible to patch without physically shipping replacement media to the customer, Quality Control on game software was (quite literally) the last chance to catch critical flaws. The advent of internet connected consoles have definitely lead to abbreviated QC. Publishers have very little incentive to make sure products hit the streets in finalized states.

    Case in point with CivRev. Why did there need to be a patch to insert the code "hooks" for the DLC? They knew they had DLC in the pipeline, correct? Take 2 and Firaxis even knew the scope and content of the DLC since we knew about it before the game came out. Why wouldn't the "hooks" have been present in the game before going Gold?

    I'll tell you why. The need to ship for revenue outweighed the need to QC the game to it's master state. It shipped "good enough" for the market.

    I appreciate the ability to add new features, have ongoing content, (like the Game of the Week) and offer substantive DLC, but the unfortunate side-effect of connected consoles is the publishers lost the incentive to QC products like they used to.
     
  12. InFeRnOgTiTaN

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    Without patches, it wouldn't be a Civilization game. Sid Meier and Firaxis crew like to tweak the game a lot (just look at Civ IV) and I hope they do this with Revolution.

    Tweak and add = the evolution of Revolution
     
  13. Double Barrel

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    While what you say could certainly be true (I have no idea if they look at DLC as giving them an excuse to ship an unfinished product), I tend to look at it as a sign of the times. It is what it is, so our choices are to accept it and look at the bright side or accept it and be unhappy about it. Us consumers simply lack the power to change that aspect of modern gaming.

    I can see both sides, but I've always played both consoles and PC games. So I've been used to playing games that could never be improved on consoles and playing games that could be updated on the PC.
     
  14. Killer Moogle

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    I'm just glad no longer have to blow into the game cartridge to get my games to work!

    :woohoo:
     
  15. Reed

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    Ha, that's the upside. The downside: Living in fear that the ol'Xbox will scratch the disc or die.
     
  16. civoholic

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    They still haven't fixed this problem:
    Civilization specifac AI

    it just doesn't make any sense that India would want kill people

    ALL the Civs act the same, its pathetic
     
  17. shadowplay

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    Some civs seem to always act the same. Greece is usually peaceful (until you're about to win and everyone tries to stop you) and doing lots of trading instead of threats and war. Strangely, India seems to be one of the most aggressive civs. Ghandi the war-monger..
     
  18. goofyballer

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    Yeah, I've noticed this too - when playing with Greece they're usually a strong tech competitor who doesn't get too aggressive at all. Same with Japan. And I've had the same experience with India as you :p
     
  19. ydejin

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    Greece starts out with Democracy. So it makes sense that it starts out peaceful. Unless Alexander wants to change government types (and forgo the 50% trade bonus) he can't declare war.
     
  20. logical_psycho

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    Looking forward to the patch. I jumped on board with 1.10 and I have not been able to play a multi player game yet. Not like I have tried it much though, I dont have that much time on my hands these days and I think single player is still fun. I am looking forward to the extra goodies (wonders etc).

    I hope some day a map generator with terrain and climate parameters will be included as well. I'd like to see more variation in maps, as now it is always one large island with several smaller ones (which makes sense with the discoverable artifacts).
     

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