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Patria Grande: Civilizations of the Americas

Discussion in 'Civ5 - New Civilizations' started by Leugi, Feb 11, 2013.

  1. Pouakai

    Pouakai It belongs in a museum. Moderator

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    No, but it used to contain the illegal drug if I remember correctly
     
  2. Leugi

    Leugi Supreme Libertador

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    Coca is not Cocaine (and now I'm sounding like an archetypical indigenist :p )... Coca can be used for Cocaine, but not exclusively so, and is in fact a sacred leaf for most Andean cultures. It is a very complicated issue in fact.
     
  3. TPangolin

    TPangolin Just the worst person

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  4. Lord Yanaek

    Lord Yanaek Emperor

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    Or maybe not so different :p

    Theobromine contained in Cocoa and found in chocolate is an alkaloid just like cocaine (and cafeine too).
    Theobromine is lethal to dogs. A small dog can be killed by 50g of dark chocolate and it's probable that very large quantities would kill a human too. But theobromine is also studied for various medical uses.

    Well, coca leaf does contain cocaine, but some tiny doses. Often the difference between a poison and a medicine is the dose.

    Hey, even water can be lethal if you drink way too much :rolleyes:
     
  5. GeneralSecura

    GeneralSecura Chieftain

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    I've redownloaded Haiti and I still cannot play any game with Haiti in it, as the game crashes upon hitting "start game". I'm not entirely sure it's because of Haiti, though. I'm about to try another game without Haiti in it to see if that does work.
     
  6. JFD

    JFD Kathigitarkh

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    Do you use Cultural Diversity by any chance?
     
  7. GeneralSecura

    GeneralSecura Chieftain

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    I do have it. Does that have anything to do with it? I'll try a game with Haiti in it without Cultural Diversity then.
     
  8. JFD

    JFD Kathigitarkh

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    There were some users reporting getting this kind of crash with the latest CulDiv update, so yeah, do try a game without CulDiv, as that may be the cause. If so, make sure you have the latest version (just the Core version, the Soundtrack, if you're using it, doesn't need to be updated).
     
  9. GeneralSecura

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    Well, I tried to launch a 60-civ YNAEMP game without Cultural Diversity and without Haiti, and it still crashed. So I'm really none the wiser.
     
  10. JFD

    JFD Kathigitarkh

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  11. Natan35

    Natan35 Mayor of St. Natansburg

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    What is your computer? It may have something to do with it.
     
  12. Skaz881

    Skaz881 History Major

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    My question was because they both use the cocoa graphic.
     
  13. Leugi

    Leugi Supreme Libertador

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    Oh, I understand... Well, the only issue is that they share the same graphic, though I don't see that as a huge issue... the improvement name and the resource icon are different. So still no, I won't remove Coca
     
  14. tmxk2012917

    tmxk2012917 Prince

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    a issue appears when i enact Haiti. after i capture a city, the turns the city in resistence increase every round,
    even when i use Vince to puppet a city state, the city gets into resistence
     
  15. Leugi

    Leugi Supreme Libertador

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    Jan had the issue too, but without Haiti... so I'm at a loss as to what would cause it.Will try looking into it...

    I must make an important notice. Becaues of the mysterious crash on the mods screen Steam has been cursing me with, and also because Haiti's comments on steam have become annoying to a ridiculous degree, any mod I finish or future updates will be made only through Civfanatics. I'll also be removing the affected mods from Steam.
     
  16. tmxk2012917

    tmxk2012917 Prince

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    actually, Haiti was not in game, but just enacted
     
  17. Leugi

    Leugi Supreme Libertador

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    I mean he had the issue without Haiti being Activated from the mods... so yeah. Haiti functions also only work when Haiti is ingame (they don't even activate themselves otherwise, to prevent lagging) so Haiti's not responsible... Might even be Cuba? It's the only one I know relates directly to Resistance.
     
  18. BttLsht

    BttLsht King

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    Please don't keep your wonderful mods out of the wonderful steam workshop and from the even more wonderful workshop users. ;)
     
  19. tmxk2012917

    tmxk2012917 Prince

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    strange. i removed Haiti and this issue disappeared

    edit: Haiti or Cuba is not the cause. without either , the issue still exists
    the cause is JFD's Norway
     
  20. Natan35

    Natan35 Mayor of St. Natansburg

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    His modjesty, please listen to rude:)p;)) fellow workshop user.
    Dont keep your mods out of it?
     

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