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PBEM Minor League (2010)

Discussion in 'Civ4 - PBEM Games' started by Luthor_Saxburg, Nov 23, 2012.

  1. Luthor_Saxburg

    Luthor_Saxburg Vassal of Civilization

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    INTRODUCTION
    This PBEM is based on a year to date MOD (Earth 2010) that is based on current reality (or almost) with Nuclear weapons and everything. It is a Minor League PBEM because humans can't play with the big guys! (otherwise would be too easy)


    GAME SETTINGS
    MOD: Earth 2010 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=395539)
    - Speed: Marathon
    - Human difficulty: Prince
    - No city flipping from culture
    - Raging Barbarians
    - No Tech Trading
    - Require complete kills
    - No vassal states
    - Limited number of Nuclear Weapons in the beginning of the game
    - Start date: 2010


    HUMAN PLAYERS
    04. UK: Tigranes

    10. Brazil: WINNER - retired from the game
    12. Japan: Kiwitt
    15. S. Africa: Nighthawk
    17. Australia: Hercules


    VICTORY CONDITIONS
    Within the game
    - Conquest
    - Domination
    - Diplomatic
    - Cultural
    Out of the game
    - Economical victory: who reaches a treasury of 100 000 wins


    HOUSERULES
    - The first obligation of all nations is to do their best in order to (try to) survive
    - Free diplomacy
    - No wars on the first turn
    - Humans gifting cities (outside peace terms) should only occur if it makes sense (it can be vetoed by other players)


    BONUS
    Humans will get the following bonus:
    - SDI or Internet
    - 1 Great Person at choice (or a General)
    - 1 special unit (air or land or sea)


    NATIONS OF THE GAME
    USA
    Arabia
    Argentina
    Australia
    Brazil
    Canada
    China
    Colombia
    Egypt
    England
    EU
    France
    Germany

    India
    Indonesia
    Iran
    Iraq
    Israel
    Japan
    Kazakhstan
    Kenya
    Korea
    Libya
    Mali
    Mexico
    N_Korea
    Pakistan
    Peru
    Russia
    South_Africa
    Thailand
    Turkey
    Venezuela
    Zaire
    Independent Alliance

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  2. Hercules90

    Hercules90 Deity

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    Definitely interested.

    What are the minor leagues civs available?

    @Luthor, you've done it again: an interesting scenario.
     
  3. Tigranes

    Tigranes Armenian

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    You might want to try my adaptation to the starting situation -- I put some research to make World more realistic, Brazil does not even have Sao Paulo (largest city in Southern Hemisphere). My adaptation file can be found in the opening post of our other Earth 2010 game (click on my sig)...

    Australia could be a very fun Civ to play! As well as North Korea (most units among minor league countries)
     
  4. Nighthawk419

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    Of course I will join this one... especially since I'm about to die in Earth 2010!

    I will take... South Africa!
     
  5. Luthor_Saxburg

    Luthor_Saxburg Vassal of Civilization

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    @Hercules, it seems we may have similar taste on what concerns PBEM's! :)

    I have updated post #1 with all the 35 nations of the game.

    @Nighthawk, happy to see you here! It seems I have taken the opportunity of your distracting holidays to attack you in a few PBEM's!!! Nothing personnal, just coincidence!


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  6. Hercules90

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    Australia, if Tigranes doesn't have first option. England second option.
     
  7. Nighthawk419

    Nighthawk419 Deity

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    I know, I don't take it personal, its just coincidence. I will have my time in the sun don't you worry about that! I'm back and fully ready to make some noise in these games...
     
  8. Tigranes

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    European Union by itself is not a major league: nothing really stronger than Australia or Brazil. EU with Germany France and Germany becomes major league though.

    If you keep BK's original initial set up (he has no vassal states) EU is just another unplayable civ (alongside with Other nations). If you keep my version, I can free EU from being Germany's vassal.

    Keep in mind that in BK's starting situation any war will result in instant nuking from Big players. AI uses all their nukes. In my version I made it so that everybody has SDI.

    AI still disbands tons of units the very first turn. I was really waiting for BK to update his last version, he did some changes but he never uploaded newer version. Things going to look lame in AI controlled countries :(

    So I am like 50/50 about this. But I would really love a challenge 1 city civs to play if we ban Nukes (I even know know ;))..

    1. North Korea, if we play BK's version.
    2. If Corporation victory is up I will take South Korea (Samsung)

    If we leave everything the way we have it now in BK's version: I will grab India. This way we just need one player to grab a country from Europe: we will have all 5 continents represented!

    Spoiler :
    The seven-continent model is usually taught in China, India, parts of Western Europe and most English-speaking countries.
    The six-continent combined-America model is used in Spanish-speaking countries and in some parts of Eastern Europe including Greece (equivalent 5 inhabited continents model (i.e. excluding Antarctica) still also found in texts).
    Using this latter model as a starting point, the International Olympic Committee uses only inhabited continents (excluding Antarctica) and thus a five-continent model as depicted in the Olympic logo.
     
  9. Luthor_Saxburg

    Luthor_Saxburg Vassal of Civilization

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    The version we will be playing will be a twiched version of Tigrane's file. Corporation victory will not be included. I will remove most of the initial nukes but knowing how the AI plays... then you should avoid going to war against countries with Nukes!

    AI disbanding units is a problem... I had this problem in other scenarios... but there isn't much we can do about it, is there? But I'm counting on USA and Russia to still be major powers!

    Question: Should England, France and Germany be major or minor powers?

    @Tigranes - which nation will you have? India?
     
  10. Tigranes

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    If it's gonna be my file without initial nukes I will go with the worst guy on everybody's list: North Korea :ninja: One city Challenge feels interesting in PBEM.

    UK, France and German by themselves are each weaker than, say Brazil. In our Today game Brazil became the only unaligned AI power with vassals. EU would never vassalize to Germany naturally, I made it so by a brute force :lol:
     
  11. Luthor_Saxburg

    Luthor_Saxburg Vassal of Civilization

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    The working file is almost almost ready. And we do have 4 players so the minimal requirements are fullfilled! :D

    And the good news is that there are bonus for playing this game! :woohoo:
    So you will have to make choices:
    1) SDI or Internet?
    2) 1 Great Person at choice (or a General) -> what GP you want?
    3) 1 special unit (air or land or sea) -> you want air, sea or land unit?

    So make your requests now and take advantage of this great promotion!!! :p
     
  12. Tigranes

    Tigranes Armenian

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    I will go for SDI any time of the year. :nuke:
    Lets find one more player in Europe so we have all 5 continents covered! Some of the people who posted in BK's original thread... Surely there is going to be someone who would love to represent Europe!
     
  13. Nighthawk419

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    Question: I'm still taking South Africa, but can someone tell me what the leader traits are for its leader?
     
  14. Luthor_Saxburg

    Luthor_Saxburg Vassal of Civilization

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    I don't have the information here but if you meanwhile play "Today" you can look it up.

    Guys, you need to start choosing your bonus... otherwise I will choose for you! :satan:

    I will take SDI, Great Spy and land unit...


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  15. Hercules90

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    As far as I can see. Creative / Organised.
     
  16. Nighthawk419

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    Awesome thanks...

    I'll take Internet, Great Engineer, and Air Unit
     
  17. Tigranes

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    Luthor, I thought there is only ONE bonus to chose from...
     
  18. Luthor_Saxburg

    Luthor_Saxburg Vassal of Civilization

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    No, there are 3 bonus... you see, I am VERY generous... he he he.

    Please state your choices for the other bonuses!
     
  19. Hercules90

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    I sent my choices via PM. Should they be public?
     
  20. Tigranes

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    SDI, Great General and Sea unit.
     

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