Peace in Europe Thread (After 1919)

[Concona]

Peace in Europe Thread​

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Palace of Abdul Aziz ibn-Saud in Riyadh​

Invited Countries:

Norway
Sweden
Weimar Republic
France
United Kingdom
USA
Italy
Turkish Republic
South Africa


Conference room of Palace

If there are other countries that want to be invited lett me here, with offcourse a motivation why.

My point of view is that the Weimar Republic or Germany however you like to call it does not have to pay any reperation for the land has allready suffered the humiliation of defeat and have also lost many of its kin in the war.

However Saudi Arabia Union thinks that there has to be strict agreements about the size of the army:

200.000 infantry
12 battleships
100 cruisers
20 destroyers
and an airforce of 250

We think this is more then fair if you look at the other European army's

In the mather of the Anschluss we think that there is no reason not to accept this, but there has to be kept an eye on both countries.

This is just the beginning of the meeting, leaders let me know if you are willing to speak about this...and let me know your opinion in this very important mather.

And please step in my humble Palace

 

[silver 2039]

The Turkish Repebulic agrees with Saudi Arabia concerning Germany. These limatations look reasonable.

 

[tommy_toon]

The Norweigan Prime Minister Gunnar Knudsen is pleased to announce his arrival for this mediation. All military numbers seem resonable enough, except for the amount of cruisers. With no territories elsewhere in the world and a coast limited mostly to the Baltic Sea, 100 cruisers is a surplus amount for coastal defense. We recommend lowering the limit on cruisers, at least by half.

 

[Concona]

We have looked again at the numbers of the cruisers, and we find yourre reasoning fair, so we come to a conlusion that indeed the number of 100 cruisers is a bit high.

 

[Gelion]

Russian government wishes to participate.......

 

[Concona]

I Abdul Aziz ibn-Saud will send an escort to Russia to get you to Saudi Arabia Union.

 

[das]

The Russian government would like to participate as well.

 

[silver 2039]

Russian government wishes to participate.......

I said before and I will say again. Rebels and terroists have no place here.

 

[das]

And the same goes for former arctic explorers turned leaders of military juntas!

 

[Concona]

The Bolsheviks aka Russians are welcome in our "barbaric" nation ok Das....I hope that we can put all of our differences aside and come up with a solution and offcourse a minor detail enjoy our cuisine and hospitality.

 

[das]

OOC is different from IC, don't worry, we don't OFFICIALLY consider that you're "barbaric".

Anyway, we do agree that reparations from Germany are hardly a fair arrangement; Germany suffered from the war just as well. We do not, however, see why should the German army be limited, whereas that of, say, France should not. Germany has learned its lesson; whereas one could hardley say the same about Weygand's Fourth Republic.

Also, now that we are talking about PEACE in Europe, it would be appreciated if France, Germany and Finland were to stop meddling in our internal affairs and promising help to the enemies of the Soviet governments in Russia, Belarus and Ukraine.

 

[Concona]

We will not discuss the mather of Russia in this Palace....for it is not the time and place to do so, we would like to discuss this with you, but then in private.

Saudi Arabia Union feels that Germany should be punished somehow, we think that it is more then fair to set some rules to prevent another war.

We see though yourre point about the meddling, but I think it is not wise to say something to France, Germany and Finland. This also because we do not see the Belarus and Ukraine as enemies

 

[das]

But why do you think that it is GERMANY that will start the next war? As I said - it has learned its lesson, not to mention that it has been greatly weakened.

And why should you somehow see Belarus and Ukraine as enemies? We never suggested this - they are our allies.

 

[Concona]

Sorry we missunderstood....our fault....but anyway we do not think that Germany will start another war, but it cannot think that it can be unpunished for the acts.

 

[alex994]

1. Germany will posses no Battleships and it's navy is too large, them possesing any is completely against the British Government.

2. Why is Turkey present with absolutely no reason to be aside from the fact that they support Germany and has little to none interest in Europe as well as blocking Greece from joining.

3. The British Government is not pleased at how Turkey assumes that she has the right to exclude nations from a conference dedicated to peace.

4. As such from above, after stating her opinions His Majesty's Government of the British Empire withdraws from these conference due to the above 2 points.

 

[Kamilian]

Where is Poland's invitation to this?
Was it lost in the mail?
Poland, after all, (and many other European countries that have not been invited) is in Europe.
Even Turkey has Thrace (Istanbul area) as a territorial presence on the continent, so inviting them is quite valid still.
But South Africa is practically on the other side of the world (in terms of north-south direction, of course). Not even close to the damn continent!
Yet we, Europeans were overlooked?
Furthermore, revising the original Treaty of Versailles may eventually spill over from reparations payment into territorial adjustments: no decision about territorial or other adjustment should be made without the consent of all countries directly affected by it.
If there is an attempt to re-adjust the Polish-German borders in any way, shape, or form, without our counsel and consent, we will not honor it, as it was not discussed with us and thus will be deemed by us illegal.

 

[Dreadnought]

The Swedish government aknowledges the claims brought forth on this council against Germany, but wishes to express the need for France to not start another war.

 

[Dachs]

Where is Poland's invitation to this?
Was it lost in the mail?
Poland, after all, (and many other European countries that have not been invited) is in Europe.
Even Turkey has Thrace (Istanbul area) as a territorial presence on the continent, so inviting them is quite valid still.
But South Africa is practically on the other side of the world (in terms of north-south direction, of course). Not even close to the damn continent!
Yet we, Europeans were overlooked?

And Greece was ignored so that a nation that controls Greek land in Europe and is attempting to carve out another Ottoman Empire can dominate the conference? We will not even consider attending these clearly biased and pointless "peace in Europe talks".

OOC: Hint, Concona: Normally, the Saudis, a non-European nation, would not try such a stunt, even as one-sided and patently biased as this is. You're getting "Screw You"s from half of the PC nations in Europe right now.

 

[Insane_Panda]

The French government refuses to participate in this futile attempt from a backwards nation to dictate the policies of the European powers.

Unless Germany returns completely to the terms of Versaille, there will be no peace.

 

[alex994]

OOC: Hint, Concona: Normally, the Saudis, a non-European nation, would not try such a stunt, even as one-sided and patently biased as this is. You're getting "Screw You"s from half of the PC nations in Europe right now.

OOC: Hear! Hear! This particuarly reeks of sheep.... Now that i think about it this whole thing smells like sheep's smell of unrealism. I'm in half of a mind to invade Saudi Arabia myself really... Supporting Germany! When they're surrounded by some of the World's Greatest Powers who's opposed against Germany....