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Peace Theme Elimination Thread

Discussion in 'Civ5 - General Discussions' started by TheBoulderite, Aug 8, 2014.

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  1. pyroflare77

    pyroflare77 King

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    Arabia - 23
    Assyria - 18
    Byzantium - 23
    Celts - 21
    China - 22
    Dutch - 24
    England - 24
    Ethiopia - 21
    Greece - 17
    Huns - 21
    Inca - 3
    Indonesia - 21
    Japan - 18
    Korea - 7 Sorry Korea, but your theme ends too soon
    Maya - 18
    Mongolia - 24
    Ottomans - 16
    Persia - 18
    Poland - 21
    Portugal - 13 Portugal defense force
    Shoshone - 24
    Spain - 25
    Sweden - 24
    Venice - 23
    Zulu - 22
     
  2. kingfish101

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    Arabia - 23
    Assyria - 18
    Byzantium - 23
    Celts - 21
    China - 22
    Dutch - 24
    England - 24
    Ethiopia - 21
    Greece - 17
    Huns - 21
    Inca - 3
    Indonesia - 21
    Japan - 18
    Korea - 7
    Maya - 18
    Mongolia - 24
    Ottomans - 16
    Persia - 18
    Poland - 21
    Portugal - 13-3=10
    Shoshone - 24
    Spain - 25
    Sweden - 24
    Venice - 23+1=24
    Zulu - 22


    Venice: Obvious upvote is obvious.

    Portugal: Just making sure...
     
  3. Kiang

    Kiang Eternally Tired

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    Dude, what on Earth is your problem with Portugal?! =\

    How is a near-20 Portugal "bad," "mainly for you?" Did you only listen to the first few seconds of the song? Do you just harbor a deep resentment for Flamenco guitar? Or do you have a personal vendetta against the Portuguese? At the moment, your continued downvoting of Portugal is more consistent than your upvoting, so it strongly appears that you're not rooting for a specific civ, but instead trying to tear one down. If even you had a specific civ you wanted to win, Portugal poses no threat to any civ's victory. This behavior would be acceptable if you had provided a clear and well-reasoned argument as to why the song is so bad, but, so far, you haven't. As a matter of fact, we have received no explanation at all, simply "it'sbad for me" and "Trying to get more points? I think not!"

    Please explain your votes or stop hating on Portugal.
     
  4. AW Arcaeca

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    ...not everyone shares your opinion? I guess we might as well ask why do I love Poland's theme so much, and the answer is just a matter of personal opinion. Personally, I don't think Portugal's theme is all that great either, and I don't really care for flamenco. I'm not sure why you're taking so much offense at this...
    Can't say for him, but as for myself, I don't like flamenco. Is that not a valid reason?
    ...Do you understand the point of elimination threads? i.e. to eliminate civs from the list? You can't eliminate a civ by adding to its points, you know. Something's got to take the downvotes if this thread is going to get anywhere, and Portugal is simply one of the worse themes left.
    At some point, you just run out of new and creative things to say about a civ's music. From the last time you listened to it, the music hasn't changed, so there's a finite number of unique comments to be made. I do the same with Poland. Heck, TheBoulderite, the guy who started the thread, even does about the same thing. Such statements seem to be acceptable explanations for pretty much everyone else on the thread - except you. And you didn't start the thread - what gives you the authority to command someone to stop downvoting your favorite theme?

    Now that said, Poland's count has been dwindling and stagnating since I haven't posted here in a while, so I need to rectify that. :)

    Arabia - 23
    Assyria - 18
    Byzantium - 23
    Celts - 21 - 3 = 18 Because while commanding a civ to glory and power, I totally want to be listening to the sounds of elves and fairies in a magical forest, plus a couple leprechauns with bagpipes. :rolleyes: Not a good combination IMO.
    China - 22
    Dutch - 24
    England - 24
    Ethiopia - 21
    Greece - 17
    Huns - 21
    Inca - 3
    Indonesia - 21
    Japan - 18
    Korea - 7
    Maya - 18
    Mongolia - 24
    Ottomans - 16
    Persia - 18
    Poland - 21 + 1 = 22 It's... uh, it sounds good. I dunno what else to say. To quote TheBoulderite, "You've heard my spiel before". It might not win but by golly, it at least needs a better score.
    Portugal - 10
    Shoshone - 24
    Spain - 25
    Sweden - 24
    Venice - 24
    Zulu - 22
     
  5. Kiang

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    I admit that I overreacted there, for which I apologize. :(

    That said, my issue was less that he didn't like the song or that he didn't think it was good or that his opinion was different than mine. Those are all perfectly valid explanations. My issue was that he did not say why he was downvoting. I would have been satisfied with "I don't like it" or "It's not good" or even "It's threatening my top choice." Heck, even a "Portugal is the worst theme left" would have been fantastic. "I don't like flamenco guitar" would have been even better. But he says none of that.

    I am not asking for unique comments every time. Only the first time, and only a single reason at that. No one wants to repeat an explanation. Thus, I think single sentence answers are fine if they relate back to a previous comment along the lines of "It's pretty" or "I don't like what they did in this song."

    In the very first post, TheBoulderite says clearly that you must provide reasons for your upvotes and downvotes. Even if only once per song, to be referred to in later votes. I'd like to enforce this rule, yet I will concede that I haven't been going about it in the right way. I maintain that my post was not uncalled for, yet I'd like to apologize once more to kingfish101 for composing it in an obscene and hostile manner. :blush:
    Sorry about that.
     
  6. Browd

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    Moderator Action: Let's tone things down a bit, folks. This is a game in the form of an elimination thread; no one gets promoted at work, or marries a more attractive person, or becomes rich and famous based on the results of this game. Votes do need to explained, but let's not bicker about the quality of explanations. If someone is providing no explanation (i.e., is just spamming the thread), please report that post. Thanks.
     
  7. kingfish101

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    Actually, maybe "bad for me" was going way too far. I would like to apologize for that as well.

    Don't worry Kiang, we will laugh about this one day.

    (Hopefully we will. :D)
     
  8. Kiang

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    I have no idea why that set me off so much. Extending my apologies to AgressiveWimp, TheBoulderite, and Browd. I'm sorry for being so hostile about that.

    I agree. :)
    Anyhow:

    Arabia - 23
    Assyria - 18
    Byzantium - 23
    Celts - 18
    China - 22
    Dutch - 24
    England - 24
    Ethiopia - 21
    Greece - 17
    Huns - 21
    Inca - 3 - 3 = 0
    Indonesia - 21
    Japan - 18
    Korea - 7
    Maya - 18
    Mongolia - 24
    Ottomans - 16
    Persia - 18
    Poland - 22
    Portugal - 10
    Shoshone - 24
    Spain - 25
    Sweden - 24 + 1 = 25
    Venice - 24
    Zulu - 22

    Sweden: Sweden, actually, is my favorite peace theme. Now is as good a time as any to give it a little boost. It sounds regal, as though it befits even Gustavus' outfit.

    Inca: Goodbye, Inca. It's been a long haul. I've stated in the past why I don't particularly like your theme, and pickings are getting slim at this point.
     
  9. Sessy

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    Arabia - 23
    Assyria - 18
    Byzantium - 23
    Celts - 18 - 3 = 15 the theme itself is nice, but the leader is so aggressive even in times of peace that it doesn't sound right.
    China - 22
    Dutch - 24
    England - 24
    Ethiopia - 21
    Greece - 17
    Huns - 21
    Inca - 3 - 3 = 0
    Indonesia - 21
    Japan - 18
    Korea - 7
    Maya - 18
    Mongolia - 24
    Ottomans - 16
    Persia - 18
    Poland - 22
    Portugal - 10
    Shoshone - 24
    Spain - 25 + 1 = 26 The only reason I play Spain is because of this. well this and the war theme.
    Sweden - 25
    Venice - 24
    Zulu - 22
     
  10. Sagax

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    Arabia - 23
    Assyria - 18
    Byzantium - 23
    Celts - 15
    China - 22
    Dutch - 24
    England - 24
    Ethiopia - 21
    Greece - 17
    Huns - 21
    Indonesia - 21
    Japan - 18
    Korea - 4 - I actually like the payoff of this theme.....too bad it starts at the last 1/3 of the track. Plus I can see some people claiming that this remix of Arirang got stuck between the Chinese and Japanese music styles.
    Maya - 18
    Mongolia - 24
    Ottomans - 16
    Persia - 18
    Poland - 22
    Portugal - 11 - I`m having the "save Byzantium" flashbacks now. Sorry, but this piece sounds nice and definitely shouldn't go away before some others in the current list.
    Shoshone - 24
    Spain - 26
    Sweden - 25
    Venice - 24
    Zulu - 22
     
  11. kingfish101

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    We now return to your regularly scheduled voting, already in progress.

    Arabia - 23
    Assyria - 18
    Byzantium - 23
    Celts - 15
    China - 22+1=23
    Dutch - 24
    England - 24
    Ethiopia - 21
    Greece - 17
    Huns - 21
    Indonesia - 21
    Japan - 18
    Korea - 4-3=1
    Maya - 18
    Mongolia - 24
    Ottomans - 16
    Persia - 18
    Poland - 22
    Portugal - 11
    Shoshone - 24
    Spain - 26
    Sweden - 25
    Venice - 24
    Zulu - 22

    China: I don't think I voted for China before, so imma give them an upvote. The whole theme itself feels like something you would play to calm yourself down. The theme just says "breathe in.. breathe out.."


    Korea: I would defend you Korea, but I just don't see any hope coming for you. Might as well end it here now.
     
  12. TheBoulderite

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    Look at that, the Poland guy returned! Glad you're back. I missed you. :lol:

    Arabia - 23
    Assyria - 18
    Byzantium - 23
    Celts - 15
    China - 23
    Dutch - 24
    England - 24
    Ethiopia - 21
    Greece - 17
    Huns - 21
    Indonesia - 21
    Japan - 18
    Korea - 1-3=-2 ELIMINATED
    Maya - 18
    Mongolia - 24+1=25
    Ottomans - 16
    Persia - 18
    Poland - 22
    Portugal - 11
    Shoshone - 24
    Spain - 26
    Sweden - 25
    Venice - 24
    Zulu - 22

    Mongolia: My prediction, as of now, it that both Mongolian themes are so incredible that both will make the top 10 in each thread.

    Korea: Goodbye, Korea, you had a good run. Sorry.

    The Incas land 25th, and Korea lands 24th!
     
  13. TheBoulderite

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    Arabia - 23
    Assyria - 18
    Byzantium - 23
    Celts - 15-3=12
    China - 23
    Dutch - 24
    England - 24
    Ethiopia - 21
    Greece - 17
    Huns - 21
    Indonesia - 21
    Japan - 18
    Maya - 18
    Mongolia - 25
    Ottomans - 16
    Persia - 18
    Poland - 22
    Portugal - 11+1=12
    Shoshone - 24
    Spain - 26
    Sweden - 25
    Venice - 24
    Zulu - 22

    Portugal: Beautiful. I'll save it.

    Celts: Not beautiful. I'll kill it.
     
  14. AW Arcaeca

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    Apparently I'm just "the Poland guy". :p
    Am I correct in saying that I am literally the only person who has ever upvoted the land of the Poles on this thread? :hmm:

    Arabia - 23
    Assyria - 18
    Byzantium - 23
    Celts - 12 - 3 = 9 :dubious::twitch::vomit: <-- 'nuf said. Out of personal preference, I don't care for leprechauns.
    China - 23
    Dutch - 24
    England - 24
    Ethiopia - 21
    Greece - 17
    Huns - 21
    Indonesia - 21
    Japan - 18
    Maya - 18
    Mongolia - 25
    Ottomans - 16
    Persia - 18
    Poland - 22 + 1 = 23 Keepin the streak alive!
    Portugal - 12
    Shoshone - 24
    Spain - 26
    Sweden - 25
    Venice - 24
    Zulu - 22
     
  15. kingfish101

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    Arabia - 23
    Assyria - 18
    Byzantium - 23
    Celts - 9-3=6
    China - 23
    Dutch - 24
    England - 24
    Ethiopia - 21+1=22
    Greece - 17
    Huns - 21
    Indonesia - 21
    Japan - 18
    Maya - 18
    Mongolia - 25
    Ottomans - 16
    Persia - 18
    Poland - 23
    Portugal - 12
    Shoshone - 24
    Spain - 26
    Sweden - 25
    Venice - 24
    Zulu - 22

    Ethiopia: The best part of this theme is 0:43-0:53.


    Celts: Don't mind me, imma just jump in the bandwagon, mainly due to the pretty fantasy things that float in my head as I hear this theme of the Civilization which is led by a very angry woman who just doesn't like the Romans.
     
  16. pyroflare77

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    Arabia - 23
    Assyria - 18
    Byzantium - 23
    Celts - 3 If this is the next to go, then so be it. I find it very pretty and stuff, but I am disappointed that it's barely Celtic outside of song origins. Some different instrumentation would have done wonders for this song.
    China - 23
    Dutch - 24
    England - 24
    Ethiopia - 22
    Greece - 17
    Huns - 21
    Indonesia - 21
    Japan - 18
    Maya - 18
    Mongolia - 25
    Ottomans - 16
    Persia - 18
    Poland - 23
    Portugal - 13 This lovely fado tune needs to be higher.
    Shoshone - 24
    Spain - 26
    Sweden - 25
    Venice - 24
    Zulu - 22
     
  17. TheBoulderite

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    Arabia - 23
    Assyria - 18
    Byzantium - 23
    Celts - 3-3=0 ELIMINATED
    China - 23
    Dutch - 24
    England - 24
    Ethiopia - 22
    Greece - 17
    Huns - 21
    Indonesia - 21
    Japan - 18
    Maya - 18
    Mongolia - 25
    Ottomans - 16
    Persia - 18
    Poland - 23
    Portugal - 13+1=14
    Shoshone - 24
    Spain - 26
    Sweden - 25
    Venice - 24
    Zulu - 22

    Portugal: Save Portugal!!!

    Celts: Down go the Celts and their non-Celtic theme.

    The Celts land 23rd!
     
  18. kingfish101

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    Arabia - 23
    Assyria - 18
    Byzantium - 23
    China - 23
    Dutch - 24
    England - 24
    Ethiopia - 22
    Greece - 17
    Huns - 21-3=18
    Indonesia - 21
    Japan - 18
    Maya - 18
    Mongolia - 25
    Ottomans - 16
    Persia - 18
    Poland - 23
    Portugal - 14
    Shoshone - 24
    Spain - 26
    Sweden - 25
    Venice - 24+1=25
    Zulu - 22

    Venice: The upvoting is strong in this one.

    Huns: Welp, with this list so far, this "peace theme" might just be an alternate toned down war theme.
     
  19. JonnasN

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    Like I said in the War thread: May I suggest increasing the strength of the downvote to help this thread conclude faster? Like, say, from now on, all downvotes will be worth -4? Could help, especially considering we're just finding excuses to downvote good themes at this point.

    Naturally, TheBoulderite would have to be the one to permit this.

    Arabia - 23
    Assyria - 18
    Byzantium - 23
    China - 23
    Dutch - 24
    England - 24
    Ethiopia - 22
    Greece - 17
    Huns - 18
    Indonesia - 21
    Japan - 18
    Maya - 18-3=15
    Mongolia - 25
    Ottomans - 16
    Persia - 18
    Poland - 23
    Portugal - 14+1=15
    Shoshone - 24
    Spain - 26
    Sweden - 25
    Venice - 25
    Zulu - 22

    Haven't been in this thread for a while, so a little support in Portugal's way.

    Pacal's theme is quite enjoyable, and really well done. Has a distinct feeling to it, too. However, it is the least good of the remaining ones (IMO). Sorry, Pacal.
     
  20. pyroflare77

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    Arabia - 23
    Assyria - 18
    Byzantium - 23
    China - 23
    Dutch - 24
    England - 24
    Ethiopia - 19 It's really nice, but it's the shortest peace theme in the game.
    Greece - 17
    Huns - 18
    Indonesia - 21
    Japan - 18
    Maya - 15
    Mongolia - 25
    Ottomans - 16
    Persia - 18
    Poland - 23
    Portugal - 16 Soothing despite the melancholic feel. Very nice.
    Shoshone - 24
    Spain - 26
    Sweden - 25
    Venice - 25
    Zulu - 22
     
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