PH2201: The Persian People's Front: Crack Suicide Squad

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  1. pholkhero

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    You know us silly sods.


    There's two things we love: it's founding a religion and conquering cities. And once we found our first city, we're all out of religions . . .

    Cyrus the Strong
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    Victory: Any
    Variant Rules:
    * no building settlers
    * our capital must be settled by the Arcasids to found a religion
    * we can only conquer cities that follow our religion BEFORE we conquer them (we're liberating them! open to modifying this though)

    For other families, once we take over some other cities, [will we get the chance to assign a city to a family if there's no home city for the fmaily first?] i was thinking:
    Sassanid for the military training, and the free connections. and the achaemanids for extra orders and teh Decree civics. Also, with the persians, both the warrior and the slinger are unlocked so.

    Here we go:




    I think this is going to be a bit tough at the beginning, but do-able.

    After settling our first city, I was thinking of maybe another scout to explore, maybe 2, and then pumping out units to clear barbs for xp and then getting ready to eliminate someone.

    And here's a roster:
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    PiR
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  2. PiR

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    Awesome!!! Tx buddy

    Anyone who'd like to join, don't be afraid by that. I hesitated to participate last time just for this rule, but they're cool with giving more time. Worse case you say you got covid and that's a free pass for sure.
     
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    I was just wondering, then, what everyone else's thoughts are on how to play the opening here?

    i think settle on that tile i highlighted is good, build some units to attack, and then maybe a disciple to spread our religion towards possible targets.

    or maybe we hsould do a scout or two before the military to find our first target.

    also, if we can't give a city to a family that doesn't have a original home city, then i have two options: 1) we suck it up and are only the one family or 2) we have to sacrifice population to build a settler, and we can only build the two. any other ideas?
     
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    Really sad we can't get those dyes in our initial borders! I'm liking the elephants though, I'm envisioning some crusader-phants crossing the alps. Or whatever mountain range exists.

    I vote for building a missionary, then pumping out military. I think we'll want to conquer another city sooner than later. Even if it means a short war where we grab 1 city than sue for peace.
     
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  6. PiR

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    Agree
    I would have preferred to harvest them non stop, but eh what can we do, reroll is not an option here.

    For the glory of <whichever_religion>! :salute:
     
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    Alrightey, I settled where i had mentioned, and founded our religion:


    The RNGod knows of our love of Monty Python, and rewards us.



    I , of course, brought them to the court. How else could we be the Persian People's Front: Crack Suicide Squad if we weren't fanatical?

    I picked Stonecutting as it was the only resource tech option, and I got a couple events while out exploring.


    Picked the 2nd option here for the extra beaker per turn and staring us down the wisdom path, and we got Rhetoric from another event. We can choose Epics or Expl. when we want, if we want (though I'm not sure we need it just yet . . .).

    I stopped @ T9 as Stonecutting was in and we drew these:


    Cant see a use for the food now, and Meta is too much for now. I like MilDrill for the rax and such, but could see an argument for Drama, too. Thoughts?

    Also, a two bits of :smoke: well, one compounded bit. We started on a settler for a couple turns :( then i built a missionary. I know we had talked about it briefly, but it was probably the wrong call. Should've went straight to military first, then missionary once we know where someone is. ah well...

    as it is, the missionary is exploring if we have the orders.
     
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    As Oz may be OoP, I'm going to rearrange the roster if that's ok, still have two spots open if anyone's interested.

    Roster:
    pholkhero >> just played
    jguy100 >> UP NOW
    PiR >> on deck
    Ozbenno >> hopefully dry-ish
    OPEN
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    I usually beeline for drama for that sweet, sweet music. But in this case I think I'm leaning toward Military Drill. We need to be pumping out some serious military numbers, and barracks will help a lot with that.

    I have family visiting, going to be busy this weekend. Probably won't be able to play for another 48 hours.
     
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    I'm keen but out of town until next Tuesday. Will catch up then.
     
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    :lol: ok, let's do this

    if you can play PiR, just post a 'got it' and i'll make an updated roster. you'll get to fix all my mistakes :D

    edit: but if not, i'm ok waiting, too. it's not really a tight 24-48; that's more a holdover from the old days of 4 or 5 SGs at a time.
     
  12. PiR

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    agree

    sorry I'm sick I just quickly came to check messages :(
     
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    Hope you feel better soon @PiR !
     
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    Military Drill, here we come! 9 more years until we can start building houses for our troops. Until then, they live in holes in the ground or something?

    Ambition? Ambition?? We ain't got time for no freaking ambitions. Pass.
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    We found an old statue. Somehow it taught us how to build housing for our troops quicker. No complaints here.
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    The leader of our holy religion hates us. Not a good start for a religious warrior like us! Spent some resources to bribe, I mean influence, the leader.

    We finally found another civilization! They got attacked by a bear - probably because they don't follow whatever religion it is we are following. We're just going to go to war with them, so I don't waste the resources aiding them directly. We'll be helping them by converting them to our one, true religion.

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    Found another! Egypt wants some tribute. We'll be paying them tribute of missionaries soon enough.

    Apparently doing nothing to help the bear attack survivors was the right thing to do. Those Greeks are a strange bunch.
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    And another tech researched. Going to end the set here, leave some discussion for what's next. I'm wondering if Polis might be the right choice. With the opponents being stronger than us, getting some walls up to defend our cities might be a necessity.
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    The good: Met two new civilizations, and even found one foreign city!
    The bad: Both opponents (Egypt and Greece) are rated much stronger than us.
    The ugly: The missionary got boxed in by barbarians. I finally broke free, but it's still several turns away from the opponent :(
     

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    Roster:
    PiR >> up now
    Ozbenno >> on somone's deck
    OPEN >> waiting for someone to make a good decision
    OPEN >> it's for you, yes YOU, the one reading this
    pholkhero >> previously just played
    jguy100 >> gone with the wind
     

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    I would take the wheel for the Chariots but the horses are so far

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    OK, that's still good with the chancellor, free chariot, and long term target: Maceman

    if not let's say it's my fever

    who said i'd fix anything?

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    Oh your friend jguy

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    not much stronger, just stronger, mmh
     
  18. PiR

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    couldn't skip that ambition -maybe disable tuto for next game?

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    Egypt seems to be bullying us.
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    Tempting, but I thing we need the supplies more.

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    Let's focus on Egypt first?
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    obviously...






    meanwhile a hurt missionnary continues to explore the world

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    well

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    sorry merchant, but it was a hungry missionnary I guess
     
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    Ozbenno >> next
    OPEN >> who knows
    pholkhero >> soon
    jguy100 >> gone with the wind, so light?
    PiR >> back in bed
     

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