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Pholkhero Flavor Series: Charlemagne of the Holy Romans

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Succession Games' started by pholkhero, Jan 10, 2008.

  1. pawelo

    pawelo Emperor

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    Maths & Construction seems a paved way to the Wang annexing - you got my vote :deal:

    I like 2N of cows if we go coastal. As there are no clam/crab/fish on sight, I'm inclined to go for 1SE of the red dot for better land grab while still getting the cows.
    Yeah, I know, the stuff about settling 1 tile away from the coast...
     
  2. Ad Hoc

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    i think the red dot might still be valid, it's only got 1 square overlap with pyongyang and will block of movement to the south by Wang. when we integrate Wang red dot would be able to use the rice.

    Block of the rest of the south from the other civs and i agree on heading to construction.
     
  3. Ozbenno

    Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    It doesn't get us any extra resources and gives us mountains as well as useless sea tiles. I would much prefer on the coast (with a lighthouse it brings in extra commerce, which we may want at the end of the rex).
     
  4. Ozbenno

    Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    True. We should still build a city 1N of cows if we stay with red dot. Also if we do go with red dot, it only becomes a decent city with Wang gone, so we are commited to Koream cleansing then :D :lol:
     
  5. Bindamel

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    Math & Construction are good, but I would say Iron Working first so we can actually get those new cities producing. There's a lot of jungle out there, and isn't iron required for the UU?
     
  6. pholkhero

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    for now, though, reddot has no food, whether we take WK or not. I still like 2 N of the cows; a nice cowtown, commerce city.

    I think we should try for 2 more settlers this next set, by hook or by crook (or by chop or by whip, if you prefer), and maybe 2 per for the next couple. tech path sounds good to me, too, even if only for the chop bonus. Though CoL is needed, as well as Currency for trade routes . . . I think i like CoL more right now.

    edit: didn't see Bindy's post; agree on IW; maybe Math>IW>CoL
     
  7. pawelo

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    @Pholk

    CoL we have - we slinged it from the Oracle.
     
  8. pholkhero

    pholkhero Deviant Mind

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    well, bust my buttons, so we did ~ i get confused with this and Men in Tights were we have our "courthouses" but not CoL :crazyeye:

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    can play tonight or tomorrow
     
  9. pholkhero

    pholkhero Deviant Mind

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    I only played 11 turns until our Prophet was born. However, I founded 3 more cities, and we’ll be able to build/whip another settler in a few turns. Whether we’ll *want* to, though, is another story . . .

    To be honest, I didn’t MM our cities :( I’m sure they were fine, but still . . . :whipped:

    Turn 117/750 (1075 BC) [24-Jan-2008 12:25:08]
    Ahh, easy enough to press enter and found my first city:

    Vienna founded and begins a Library (135 turns) for some much needed ‘cul-chah’ :culture:

    Aachen: Walls > Settler (7 turns)

    Turn 118/750 (1050 BC) [24-Jan-2008 12:26:12]
    I decided to heed Ozbenno’s and my advice and settle where we can get a food source right now in our borders and still allow us to settle at those nearby fish later.

    Nuremberg founded and begins a Library (68 turns). I chopped out a forest here for this already, but it should be whipped when possible.

    I also whipped the settler @ Aachen for 2 pop this turn.

    Turn 119/750 (1025 BC) [24-Jan-2008 12:27:55]
    Aachen: :whipped: Settler > Axeman (11 turns) for some much-needed protection! Another city should take over settler production soon maybe, and let Aachen produce some military. We desperately need another production city imo.

    On the next turn, Asoka came by:


    I accepted for now. Who knows where he is? This land is HUGE. Almost perfect for us . . . too bad the food resources are few and far between ~

    Turn 122/750 (950 BC) [24-Jan-2008 12:29:14]
    Aachen grew to size 3 on the previous turn as I founded my last city:

    Augsburg founded and another Library (68 turns). Whip when you can, of course.

    Turn 123/750 (925 BC) [24-Jan-2008 12:29:41]
    The only notable event

    I started on Alphabet (337 Turns) for now, though you can see our finances are now horrible with the addition of Augsburg. However, we need cottages, and a focus on commerce for a the time being, as well as maybe some scientists. This, too, will require more workers. We can shave off a couple gpt w/Rathauses in a couple cities, too, if we feel it’s necessary, perhaps after the libraries.

    Turn 125/750 (875 BC) [24-Jan-2008 12:30:37]
    Aachen: Axeman > Axeman (6 turns) We should send this next one down to the SW corner. Look what I found:


    Many Holy Romans (which is how, i'm sure, most people living under Charlemagne called themselves ;) ) died to bring us that information . . . well, one warrior, really.

    Turn 128/750 (800 BC) [24-Jan-2008 12:31:33]
    Our GP was born, and rather than save him for the next player, I figured I’d merge him and see if it helped our finances much:

    Aachen finishes: The Church of the Nativity and we're now at +2 @ 0%.

    Wang asked us to cancel our deals with Monty, but I said no way. Here’s an overview map with some new city sites marked.


    I didn’t mark the city that captures the fish because I thought maybe we could found on that outlying island desert tile. Just a thought. That “c” just NW of Aachen would be very nice for a production center for now: desert FPs and nice hills. Of course, that barb city must be ours as well ~

    From here, as I said, we need to focus on our economy, but also still expand whenever at all possible, i.e., we are positive at 20% science :yup: Workers and cottages, I think, as well as military protection are the order of the day, imo. Also, let’s think about getting walls and rathauses in *every* city when possible for flavor purposes :yup:

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    Also, we're going to try another round of Saturday DM MP (12 am, 6 am and/or 6 pm GMT); PM me if interested.

    And da save:
     

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  10. Ozbenno

    Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    OK Got it. Economic stabilisation and military production are in order.
     
  11. Quotey

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    Missinary with every city, perhaps? I don't think we can actually expand more, pholk... And I'd be up for Saturday DM MP. I'll post of the forums if I'd not doing anything else then.

    Why are we building libraries instead of Rathauses? My fear is that we won't be able to afford the escort, never mind the city.
     
  12. Ad Hoc

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    Good Turns PH,:goodjob:

    i think we need to found at least a couple more cities, light blue in the north



    and dark blue in the south



    i would really like to get pink in the north for when calender comes in but i don't think we can afford it.

    the barb city in the south (yellow) can be kept. Rathauses are needed in all cities.

    i'd love to try MP but i've got the feeling the GF would go Monty on me :(
     
  13. pawelo

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    I agree!
    This game is setting off pretty well, unlike Ph MLG games :lol: :p

    I would like to close our land by settling the pink and light blue asap.
     
  14. pholkhero

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    i think Dark Blue should be the next and last city we settle for a while, until the economy improves.

    I stuck in Libraries for culture popping, but i guess if we swap them to Rathauses, and get them Missionaries asap, they'll pop their borders soon enough.
     
  15. pawelo

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    When you say Sat 6AM, isn't it 11AM GMT ?
    If so, I may have a shot on the DM MP soon... To be confirmed
     
  16. Ozbenno

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    First thing I do is swap Libraries for Rathouses in 3 cities. I then whip Prague's rathouse for 1 pop. This allows me to raise the research slider to 10%, bringing Mathematics (I swapped this too) down from 559 turns to 280 :goodjob:

    All before I play a turn too.

    The whipped rathouse allows me to go to the dizzy heights of 30% research (Maths now 70 turns).

    I like our undefended city 4 squares from a barb city too :rolleyes:



    Some cottage come on-line we're up to 40% (Maths in 55).

    I start up more workers around the place.

    Build a library in Prague and employ a scientist (we should do this in all cities as we will be running a low research rate).

    I played close to 15, we'll be right to restart the rexing now I think. Our rathouses in 3 cities should be able to be whipped in the next set I think.

    Wang and Asoka both have Alphabet. We can trade with Asoka, one of the following two would be good but before we do that we should gift Priesthood to Wang so we can trade CoL to him the same turn, picking up whatever we didn't get from Asoka, ie don't let Asoka be able to trade CoL to Wang.





    If we build more cities, maybe closer to home for the moment (blue dot and 2N of stone).
     

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  18. Ozbenno

    Ozbenno Fly Fly Away Moderator Hall of Fame Staff

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    I think fearless leader is OOP for a day or two, so here'e the roster:

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  19. Ad Hoc

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    got it, played and will post later.:)
     
  20. Ad Hoc

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    A few quiet turns,

    After reviewing the map, i decided that Oz knows best and made the following two trades after first gifting priesthood to wang. i would have prefered to get mono out of Asoka but he wasn't buying





    Mainz was founded in 230BC and would be the only city founded in my turns,



    this chap came calling and after a long pause for thought i agreed to his request, i dont want to antagonize monty too much



    125BC and with Mathematics i pass the baton.



    Generally Ausberg and Nuremburg both whipped Rathauss this turn and then continued on with Libraries.

    Iron was found adjacent to nuremburg (typically on a square just cottaged) and was connected

    We have one settler heading to pick the horses up north and a settler due in 0ne turn to either get the stone city or head ...

    Bad news both Monty and Wang are now Buddhist
     

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