Pick the Civ5 Leaders (There's a Catch)

[Tee Kay]

This thread is for picking Civ5 leaders - up to three leaders for each civilization you expected and/or wanted to be included. However, you must NOT pick a leader which has already been included in a civilization game. This means, the following are automatically disqualified:

Spoiler A long list :

Abraham Lincoln
Abu Bakr
Alexander
Amaterasu [deity]
Asoka
Augustus Caesar
Bismarck
Boadicea (Boudica)
Bortei (Borte)
Brennus
Canute
Catherine II
Charlemagne
Charles De Gaulle
Churchill
Cleopatra
Cunobelin
Cyrus
Darius I
Dido
Eleanor Roosevelt
Elizabeth I
Franklin Roosevelt
Frederick II
Genghis Khan
Gilgamesh
Gunnhild
Hammurabi
Hannibal
Hatshepsut
Henry the Navigator
Henry VIII
Hiawatha
Hippolyta [mythical]
Huayna Capac
Indira Gandhi
Isabella
Ishtar [deity]
Joan of Arc
Joao II
Julius Caesar
Kublai Khan
Lenin
Livia
Louis XIV
Mahatma Gandhi
Mansa Musa
Mao Zedong
Maria Theresa
Mehmed II
Montezuma
Mursilis
Napoleon
Nazca [fictional]
Osman I
Pacal II
Pachacuti
Pericles
Peter I
Philip II
Qin Shi Huang
Ragnar Lodbrok
Ramesses II
Sacajawea
Saladin
Scheherezade [fictional]
Shaka
Shakala [fictional]
Sitting Bull
Smoke-Jaguar
Stalin
Suleiman I
Suryavarman II
Theodora
Tokugawa Ieyasu
Victoria
Wang Kon
Washington
William of Orange
Wu Zhao (Wu Zetian)
Xerxes
Zara Yaqob

Apart from the ones in the list, any historical or contemporary (not fictional) leaders can be nominated - political leaders, military leaders, religious leaders, statespeople, heads of state, heads of governments, ministers, advisors... anyone in a position of political, military or religious power.

The popularity of a proposed leader will be measured by the number of nominations/endorsements. The one with the most endorsements will be crowned King/Queen of Wishlistland.

Edit: in case you haven't noticed I stopped updating this long ago.

 

[rollo1066]

Emperor Meiji of Japan.
President Thomas Jefferson (USA).
Emperor Trajan of Rome.
Tang Taizong of China.
Lorenzo the Magnificant (Italy).
Deng Xiopeng of China.

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[Pangur Bán]

EUROPE
England, Athelstan, Henry II
Germany, Otto the Great, Frederick II (emperor, not king), Charles V
Russia, Svyatoslav, Yaroslav the Wise, Ivan the Terrible
France, Philip Augustus
Poland, Boleslaw Chrobry
# Scandinavia, Cnut
Lithuania , Gediminas
Rome, Constantine the Great, Theodosius the Great
Arabs, Umar, Abd-al Malik and Harun al-Rashid
Persia, Khusrau Anushirvan (or another great Sasanian), and Tamerlane (or Ismail I if preferred)
Spanish, Alfonso the Battler
China, Taizong
India, Akbar
Khazars, Joseph
Mapuche, Lautaro

 

[Tee Kay]

Canute, Alexander and Pericles are disqualified for already being in a Civ game.

 

[Dark_Jedi06]

United States
Theodore Roosevelt
Andrew Jackson
Thomas Jefferson

That's all for now.

 

[Pakhawaj]

If they include England as a civilisation again, I think it would be cool to include Ælfred the Great with him being fairly popular it may happen.
Though not as well known having Shivaji as a leader of India would be nice, it's not like India has many leaders known worldwide.

 

[lostcause]

I think Marcus Aurelius could be a good Roman leader.

 

[climat]

Rome : One of Five Good Emperors except Nerva (Especially I want to see Hadrian)
China : Tang Taizong
Arab : Harun al-Rashid
Persia : Shapur I can be a candidate (if Sassanid is included)
Germany : Otto I, Frederick Barbarossa, Frederick II of Hohenstaufen (if HRE is included)
India : Jawaharlal Nehru
Khmer : Jayavarman II
Celt : Vercingetorix
Korea : Sejong (if Korea is in the game)
Ottoman : Selim I, (Ataturk?)

 

[CTH]

Scandinavia: Gustav II Adolf (Gustavus Adolphus) A Swedish king

Nelson Mandela perhaps

Btw do you think we will see the Vatican as a city-state? (A pope as a leader, but would feel a bit strange without religion in the game)

 

[Gedemo]

France: Clovis, Vercingetorix, Francis 1st
Spain: Charles Quint
Vikings: Erik
Russia: Ivan - Rasputin - Nicolas
Egypt: Akhenaton -
Arabia: Al Mansur - Al Malik
Inca: Atahualpa - Viracocha
Polynesian: Kamehameha
Papuan: Rajapapua
Tupi: Cunhambebe
Arawak: Agueybana
Inuits: Angakuq
Haida: Koyah
Maori:Hone Heke
Moche: Sipan
Kongo:Nzinga
Belgium: Leopold

 

[Ymir9]

I want Emperor Meiji for Japan.

And if there's Tokugawa, make him Ieyasu at least.
Otherwise it's like having "Caesar" for the Romans. (CIV 3)

 

[Koning]

This thread is for picking Civ5 leaders - up to three leaders for each civilization you expected and/or wanted to be included. However, you must NOT pick a leader which has already been included in a civilization game. This means, the following are automatically disqualified:

Spoiler A long list :

Abraham Lincoln
Abu Bakr
Alexander
Amaterasu [deity]
Asoka
Augustus Caesar
Bismarck
Boadicea (Boudica)
Bortei (Borte)
Brennus
Canute
Catherine II
Charlemagne
Charles De Gaulle
Churchill
Cleopatra
Cunobelin
Cyrus
Darius I
Dido
Eleanor Roosevelt
Elizabeth I
Franklin Roosevelt
Frederick II
Genghis Khan
Gilgamesh
Gunnhild [likely fictional]
Hammurabi
Hannibal
Hatshepsut
Henry the Navigator
Henry VIII
Hiawatha
Hippolyta [mythical]
Huayna Capac
Indira Gandhi
Isabella
Ishtar [deity]
Joan of Arc
Joao II
Julius Caesar
Kublai Khan
Lenin
Livia
Louis XIV
Mahatma Gandhi
Mansa Musa
Mao Zedong
Maria Theresa
Mehmed II
Montezuma
Mursilis
Napoleon
Nazca [fictional]
Osman I
Pacal II
Pachacuti
Pericles
Peter I
Philip II
Qin Shi Huang
Ragnar Lodbrok
Ramesses II
Sacajawea
Saladin
Scheherezade [fictional]
Shaka
Shakala [fictional]
Sitting Bull
Smoke-Jaguar
Stalin
Suleiman I
Suryavarman II
Theodora
Tokugawa Ieyasu
Victoria
Wang Kon
Washington
William of Orange
Wu Zhao (Wu Zetian)
Xerxes
Zara Yaqob

Apart from the ones in the list, any historical or contemporary (not fictional) leaders can be nominated - political leaders, military leaders, religious leaders, statespeople, heads of state, heads of governments, ministers, advisors... anyone in a position of political, military or religious power.

The popularity of a proposed leader will be measured by the number of nominations/endorsements. The one with the most endorsements will be crowned King/Queen of Wishlistland.

Now, in which version of Civilization did unknown leaders like Scheherezade, Livia, Grunnhild, Cunobelin, Nazca and Sacaweja feature? Not a regular version of civ, since I have never even heard of them..

 

[Dachs]

Why is Harun al-Rashid getting all this love? He was a terrible ruler!

 

[Tee Kay]

Now, in which version of Civilization did unknown leaders like Scheherezade, Livia, Grunnhild, Cunobelin, Nazca and Sacaweja feature? Not a regular version of civ, since I have never even heard of them..

Civilization II.

Scheherezade is from a story, Livia is Augustus Caesar's wife, Gunnhild (female Viking leader) is probably made up, Cunobelin was a Celtic Briton ruler, Nazca (female Aztec leader) is also made up AFAIK, and Sacajawea (female Sioux leader) is historically incorrect.

 

[climat]

Why is Harun al-Rashid getting all this love? He was a terrible ruler!

Maybe.. because of The Book of One Thousand and One Nights?

Civilization II.

Scheherezade is from a story, Livia is Augustus Caesar's wife, Gunnhild (female Viking leader) is probably made up, Cunobelin was a Celtic Briton ruler, Nazca (female Aztec leader) is also made up AFAIK, and Sacajawea (female Sioux leader) is historically incorrect.

IIRC, there were one male leader and one female leader per each civilization in CivII. Maybe that was a reason why fictional figures or deities were picked up.

 

[Dachs]

Wasn't Tang Taizong in the Chinese version of Civ 4? Or am I just imagining things based on HuaynaCapac357's old avatar?

Maybe.. because of The Book of One Thousand and One Nights?

yourself.

 

[Tee Kay]

IIRC, the reason CivII included these figures is that there were one male leader and one female leader per each civilization in CivII.

Yep.

They couldn't find female leaders for some civilizations - Babylon, Greece, Sioux, Persia, Japan (though there were quite a few Japanese empresses to choose from), Aztecs, Zulus, etc. So they used mythical figures or fictional ones or just made one up (eg. Shakala).

And, my mistake, Gunnhild was an actual historical leader

 

[Tee Kay]

Wasn't Tang Taizong in the Chinese version of Civ 4?

He is (in place of Mao ) though not in any other versions so I didn't count him.

 

[Arakhor]

Celtia - Caractacus, Vercingetorix
England - William I, Richard I, Henry VIII, Eleanor of Acquitaine
France - Louis VII
Greece - Leonidas
Japan - Hachiman, Meiji
Rome - Marcus Aurelius, Hadrian
Spain - Charles V & I, Phillip II
USA - Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt

 

[Infantry#14]

I wonder why no one has nominated Confucius for the Chinese. Although he was never a king or general, scholars are equally competent ruling civilizations. A lot of medieval and imperial chinese adminstrative practices can be attributed to his teachings (or how later ppl interpreted his teachings).