To get more information about play-balancing the civs, I would like to ask your help by participating in a Pick Your Leader Challenge. I have created a 9 player, noble difficulty map with 9 fixed start locations. Then I made 9 copies of the map, where a different civ is at each start location. I would like you to play all or some of the 9 maps at the same starting location, and give us feedback about which civ seemed easy or hard, and why. There obviously won't be any difference in your starting location, which will rule out one main variable in this type of comparison. The nine games are attached. You will need to use the new 1.7 release. You can unzip the games anywhere and double-click on one to start the game. Or you can unzip them into My Games/Beyond The Sword/saves/WorldBuilder and use the "Custom Scenario" menu choice. Each game has the name of a civ. When you start the game, you will be prompted to choose which civ you would like to play; please choose the same civ as given in the filename. If you think of the map as the dial of a clock, you will be starting at 4:00, on the right side a little below center. If your start position is elsewhere, please double check the file name and your civ choice. If you prefer to play on a difficulty besides Noble, this can be done and it isn't that hard. You may adjust the difficulties of all the civs in the game screen. Or, you may edit the starting file as shown in the spoiler: Spoiler : 1. Make sure your favorite plain text editor will not convert tabs into spaces. 2. Use your editor on the CivBeyondSwordWBSave file. 3. Search for the string "Handicap=". You will find a line like: Code: Handicap=HANDICAP_NOBLE 4. Change the NOBLE part to your preferred difficulty such as CHIEFTAIN or IMMORTAL. 5. Repeat the change for each of the players, 9 total. 6. Save the file The type of feedback I would like is, which civ seemed easier or harder to win with? Playing several civs on the same map, does some particular feature of a civ seem overpowered or underpowered? Are there particular strategies which fit very well (or very poorly) with one civ? We do not feel the civs are perfectly balanced yet, so you may find some weird results. When I tested the same map using AI autoplays, the Ecaz civ often came out on top. The Fremen civ often came out on the bottom, but we believe this is because the AI does not use some of their abilities effectively. If that is correct, then human players should find the Fremen game has the same difficulty as the others. Please post feedback here. You may also find the threads Version 1.7 feedback and play-balancing the civs helpful. Your feedback will help make a more balanced game!