Pie's Ancient Europe

[mourndraken]

great job on this mod !!

game crashed as Cleopatra in the classic age, when I produced an emirgant to reduce population in my capital.


Edit - I see that there is a new version since I downloaded. It'll take me a few hours to see if that happens again.

Edit - the saved game loads with the new version but the error still occurs.

 

[Samvs Avrelivs]

@Pie: Yeah. I really love Rome and the whole era. Really fascinating stuff.

And while I think music is a big part, I don't want anybody sued over it! Perhaps we could grab some MP3s from older Civs or other mods. Surely it shouldn't be so dangerous if they're already in use.

@Keinpferd: Mmm. Interesting sound. Although too short. It also might be worth looking into some neo-celtic stuff. For the Guals, Germans, Iberians, and of course, Celts.

Maybe some drum stuff too for the North African Civs? (Excluding Carthage, of course).

 

[pie_at]

@mourndraken: I'll check it out this evening

I think this is not possible to play different background music while playing a certain CIV.
If it is no problem to hear all kinds of ancient music (celtic, egypt, greek, roman,etc) than I will scour for such ancient music in the other mods. good idea!

 

[pie_at]

@mourndraken: I checked this out and had no problems!
I played 14 turns to 650 BC and built the emigrant the very first turn in the capital.

the romans have been wiped out by the carthagians

 

[mourndraken]

@mourndraken: I checked this out and had no problems!
I played 14 turns to 650 BC and built the emigrant the very first turn in the capital.

the romans have been wiped out by the carthagians

please don't cry about Carthage. I gave them Rome after I beat back the Iberians who killed off Caesar

.. so I tried it again. and the game continued. not sure what was going on with my stuff .. it failed four times in a row ..

so thanks ! whatever you did worked like magic ! keep up the good work !

 

[Keinpferd]

@Taneda Santôka: How's the new version coming along? I'm really keen to playing it . In case I sounded negative about the manufacture idea, I hope it's included in your update, since there are many examples of a certain proto-industrialism in the ancient world, like the terrace shaped mill at Barbegal in S France.

 

[Tomberrysenior]

Awesome mod, congratulations

 

[mourndraken]

Great mod.

Still having fun with the game.

On my house game, I have added modules for animated leaders.

I'll upload it and the civilopedia entries I have put together, if there is any interest.

 

[pie_at]

@mourndraken: samvs does already check the quotes and other stuff, thx.
ehm, no I just want to keep the unanimated (for slower pcs).

A new update will come soon.

It could be that I will get the correct english version from samvs before...

 

[Red Boxer]

Sweet!

Any teasers as to what is in the next update?

 

[mourndraken]

optional module for wonder movies

 

[pie_at]

"optional module for wonder movies" ? I do not have films about all the new wonders I put into this mod ;(

Next update will include:
-) XML: Bonus papyrus: +1 smiley
-) XML: Bonus amber: +1 smiley, +1 health
-) XML: Spy cost per turn lowered from -20% to -5%
-) XML: Emigrant: deactivated number restriction, but more expensive
-) XML: harbor can generate 1 merchant
-) XML: bear from ST4 to ST3
-) XML: Quinquirems get immunity from first strikes
-) XML: Techs a bit more expensive from classical era
-) XML: All mercenaries get +20% strength (promo 1 + 2)
-) XML: Max count for mercenaries. 20 = standard, the stronger/better the lower max num.
-) XML: higher AI-Weight for palace
-) Python: lower chance of leprosy and plague (8%)
-) Python: lower chance of slave death during improv. building from 5% to 4%.
-) Phyton: 2 turns of city revolt when afficted to leprosy
-) Phyton: no unit gets killed while city gets plague anymore, but all units in its surroundings (2 plots) get hurt. 5 turns city revolt.
-) Python: christianity revolt lowered to 20%
-) Phyton: new feature: wine diffusion with vintager (less wine on maps at the beginning - historical sites)
-) XML: new buildingues: vintager (+5% gold, one plot in the city radius becomes a wine resource with winery improv.; only buildable with wine
-) Python: changing the chance of GPs when city gets conquered:
a GP gets conquered 50%, can flee 40%, dies 10% (before: in each case 33%)
-) XML: Quinquerems only buildable with military academy
-) XML: christ. und jew. missionaries only buildable in monasteries (like original CIV)
-) XML: church -25%, christ. monastery -50% science
-) XML: Zoroastrism gets favorite rel for mesopotamian Civs
-) XML: more civ based background music
-) Map: wine only in Italy, Greece, Anatolia, Syria and Egypt
-) Map: Some forests in N-Africa
-) Map: updated east part of the map
and special new features like:
-) chance of a revolting neighbour city when a friendly city gets conquered. (if the city gets razed -> another city gets revolting)
-) cities can renegade when a hugh stack arrives the city borders (don't even know if this is possible)
-) some units of a hugh stack can become independent (barbarian) and fight against you (in testing)

 

[Taneda Santôka]

Awesome !
If I may suggest another change to the map, it would be to get rid of Lake Nasser in southern Egypt, it dates from mid-twentieth century, with the construction of the Aswan dam. Map of ancient Egypt.

And can you give more detail about your vintager building, it looks interesting, and I really look forward to see wine a more scarce resource, valuable for trade !

 

[pie_at]

puh...
I think a lake there will merge with the sea... but I'll have a look.

about wine: yes. wine resources will be rare. but with a vintager you can cultivate wine whereever you want (except on ineconomic plots) - one resource per city with a vintager.
if a wine plot is 2 plots away from a city you'll get a second one. these are agric. centers for wine
the more cities with vintagers the more you can trade. but: if you trade wine, every trade partner is able to grow wine for himself... this would fit the correct history of wine

hm... but... you brought me to a new(?) idea.

if I add a resource grapes? and only with grapes you can build a vintager that produce wine for trade?... this would be more realistic.... that's it.

So: grapes will be rare. wine can be produced with a vintager. a vintager adds a grape resource with a winery next to the city.

 

[Taneda Santôka]

puh...
I think a lake there will merge with the sea... but I'll have a look.

No what i mean is that there is already a lake where Lake Nasser is, but it is most unrealistic, the Lake was "build" in mid-20th c. so I just suggest to delete the lake in southern Egypt.

 

[pie_at]

oh... sorry just overread the word "rid"....
yes of course. when this is true and I believe you, I'll take this out! thx!

 

[Halforc]

Love this Mod,

When playing Egypt I was unable to find any bronze so I couldn't build War chariots. I had copper but there was no bronze in the area at all. Is this an oversite or am I missing something?

Cheers

 

[pie_at]

hi halforc!
for bronze you need a second metal! either copper and tin or copper and lead!
I think in southern egypt you will find tin.
When you exploit these resources and connect them with your city, you are able to build a bronze forge to gain bronze.

but have a look into the civipedia sometimes. this could be necessary in this mod.

 

[mourndraken]

mabey not all of the wonders. There are several of the movies for your wonders right here

.bik movie viewer

 

[Halforc]

Excellent thanks. That makes sense.