Plagiarism . advantages and disadvantage of it.

[scy12]

Well the thread failed when i made the which school question and so everyone thinks is about University papers.

The point here is stealing ideas from others while allowing yourself to keep your own.

If that is not called Plagiarism then the title may had not been the best in relation to what i had in mind.

But unfortunately it seems people have no problem with stealing ideas from others so long what you say sounds unique and it is also your opinion. Is there anyone here who disagrees with it ? That believes that just because someone else thought of it first you are not allowed to think of it also ?

 

[scy12]

Then use the paper, but credit the author.

Ok.



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[Perfection]

Plagiarism is the resort of immoral morons.

 

[scy12]

Plagiarism is the resort of immoral morons.

Are Hundred thousands of news sites/channels , generally news media , Immoral morons ?

I have to agree that while stealing ideas and aplying them to your own is not bad or as i have learned plagiarism which has several disadvantages regarding the understanding of a person. News media which are selling a product that there is high demand give the public what they want. Wait , stealing news from other news sources is not plagiarism ? Oh yes it is.

Now whether this is positive , i will lead you decide.

 

[downtown]

That isn't plagiarism. If News Media gets its reports from a different source, even they cite it.

That word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

 

[Syterion]

Are you in middle school or something? Wait until you have a teacher who can easily tell when you use information that is obviously over your head or start writing in what is clearly not your writing, or make you submit it to a plagiarism detection site. We all use other's work, but if you just think about what you read, you can come to your own conclusions about it.

 

[scy12]

That isn't plagiarism. If News Media gets its reports from a different source, even they cite it.

That word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Are you sure that they do ? There is that media-ego we didn't take it first thing . And when a news leaks for a few hours to the public none cares to show who was the original source of the news. You can't seriously believe that all news media cite their sources. I have seen often media here to use media (picture,sound) from other media because they are the only ones who have the specific video. The thing is it is not always apparent which the original source was.

It is extremely naive to believe that it doesn't happen not that it does.




Any other answers unrelated to the thread will be in spoiler tags.

Spoiler :

Are you in middle school or something? Wait until you have a teacher who can easily tell when you use information that is obviously over your head or start writing in what is clearly not your writing, or make you submit it to a plagiarism detection site. We all use other's work, but if you just think about what you read, you can come to your own conclusions about it.

It isn't a personal concern of me and that was never the point of the thread. I did say this before but it appears people like a bit too much to be offering the superior's advice.


As for middle -high school (Education until 18) i wrote my own staff but there was never anything hard that was asked for us to do there. Other students did use plagiarism methods and it did provide with them with good grades provided they could present the subject that they copy pasted in the class sometimes. Anyway whatever method you use in middle school or high school , you can succeed because there is nothing to worry about. Thinking about your own staff is obviously better for you. For University one can't expect to copy others studies and present them as their own without thinking the thing through.



I don't understand the bazzillion if you are in middle school , university ,etc stop plagiarism right now posts.

Users failed here at A) have not read previous posts which ask the same questions B) Take any subject here which is not presented as a personal one as a personal. C) expect the user scy would ever ask a personal question to this forum ? D)

I also failed at rightful presenting this thread before it was invaded by the above instinctual reaction.

 

[Bigfoot3814]

Here's a disadvantage: When you get caught, you look like a big idiot.

 

[scy12]

Here's a disadvantage: When you get caught, you look like a big idiot.

Unless your profession allows plagiarism in some ways due to it making life a bit easier regarding that profession. Some news media do so. Do they all suck ? It has to do with who they are competing with.

People , attempt to see this more than "Students shouldn't plagiarize phase."

 

[Bigfoot3814]

I think in the context you're using, it's not plagarism, just relaying information. There's only so many ways to paraphrase a news report.

 

[Nike Zeus]

Plagiarism is taking credit for someone else's work, not just using it.

 

[Dubai Vol]

scy12 you seem to be confused about what plagiarism is. As someone above said:

That word. I don't think it means what you think it means.

Now then, I have copied his words, but made some attempt to attibute them and not claim them for myself. he, OTOH, has used words that were used by another person without attributing them. Is he guilty of plagiarism? No. the quote is so well-known (Princess Bride FTW) that there is no need to attribute it, any more than I need to cite Patrick Henry if I write "Give me liberty or give me death!" Everybody knows that saying is not mine.

When you get to the level of using the IDEAS of others, but putting them in your own words, then that is not plagiarism in the strict sense of the term. Depending on how and where you are using the idea, various standards for the need to attribute the source of the idea apply.

Why don;t you give a specific example, and we (your humble audience) can give opinions on how credit should be handled. You could certainly use the practice in writing coherently, if you don't mind my saying so....

 

[DNK]

Are Hundred thousands of news sites/channels , generally news media , Immoral morons ?

No comment

Plagiarism = directly quoting another's work without giving proper credit.

It's wrong not because it's wrong to take others' ideas and conclusions and research and incorporate them into your own understanding, but because it's lying.

It's lying to write an academic paper, where it is assumed you will be citing sources, and then not cite the direct words from a source. The point of these papers is to take evidence/knowledge/etc from others and your own work, cite them appropriately, and then connect them yourself. Even if you connect them the same way you heard someone else connect them, it shows you're not really thinking things through or taking a very lax approach to the intellectual process when you can't even word it yourself. In a student setting, it's blatantly defeating the purpose when you aren't actually learning to write.

It's also wrong because it taints the work of the person being plagiarized, because there are now two supposed authors, when in reality it was all that original author's work. In some sense it's simply a sign of respect to properly cite material, and it really isn't asking much.

 

[scy12]

Alright i self-defeated myself here by using the word plagiarism other than "stealing ideas" or better i could quote a new article on the matter about copyright disagreements among two parties. Anyway i live to fight another day and post another thread on the issue in the future.