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Players who consitently win, do you lead in score through out?

Discussion in 'Civ4 - Strategy & Tips' started by jedimogg, Feb 17, 2006.

  1. jedimogg

    jedimogg Chieftain

    Oct 24, 2005
    players who win a lot, is your score the best or close then entire game or does it lag a little while you build infrastructure and then jump up?
  2. Thalassicus

    Thalassicus Bytes and Nibblers

    Nov 9, 2005
    Your score pretty much only depends on how much territory you control, don't pay too much attention to it. You can have the highest score by early over-expansion and easily lose, or the lowest score and win.

    My power graphs (indicate military strength) on the other hand, are #2. Very low, if not the lowest through the first half of the game, then skyrocket as I campaign from Cossacks on.
  3. Sahkuhnder

    Sahkuhnder Delusions of grandeur

    Nov 27, 2005
    Vegas Baby! Yeah!
    I don't consistently win, but I never lead in score until at least halfway or better through the game.
  4. mnf

    mnf King

    Jan 31, 2006
    I think it depends on the difficulty level, though. Players consistenly winning on Monarch will simply leave the AIs in the dust if they go to play on Noble or below.

    But I actually think score has some significat correlation with winning. After all, the more territory you control, the more resources you should control, which means less resources to the AIs. The more population you have, the more tiles you could work and hence the more productive you are, in terms of all of Commerce, Production and Science.

    The score isn't an absolute indicator of victory, but if you're consistently rank in the last few places throughout the game, that is cause for concern unless you're trying out something really whacky, I'd say. (Like cultural victory, I think culture simply doesn't count into the score other than for the expanded territory.)
  5. Armorydave

    Armorydave Prince

    Oct 23, 2003
    Baltimore, Maryland
    I am generally in the top 3 in score but really don't pay too attention. Early in the game I am always behind and pretty much any win besides conquest/domination I am behind (but reasonably close, within 20%) throughout. I only play on Monarch and win a fair share.
  6. colony

    colony Slow Typer

    Nov 29, 2003
    After my first 2 wars I'm generally up in the top 3 in score, but I really don't pay much attention to it anymore, except to keep an eye on an AI that looks like it could run away with the game. This is on Emperor, but on Monarch I find it easier to keep up in score because of the higher happiness cap
  7. Dueck

    Dueck Walrold

    Jan 24, 2006
    Calgary, AB
    Domination: Yes
    Space Race: Often (I do a militaristic approach)
    Diplomatic: Yes (" " " " ")
    Conquest: Probably
    Cultural: Never
  8. crocodiledundee

    crocodiledundee Chieftain

    Feb 15, 2006
    Yes or close to it, but i find that in space race or diplomatic (the ones i find easiest to pull off) its only really relevant in regards to your GNP
  9. DarkSchneider

    DarkSchneider King

    Oct 29, 2001
    Burlington, VT
    Well on Noble you would pretty much have to be, but on every other level you will need time to overcome the computer's natural production bonuses. In my latest Emporer game I was leading in Tech and wonders the entire game, but despite my best efforts, only got an early expansion of 7 cities. Also, one of those cities was repeatedly attacked by the Romans and was forced to sacrifice a total of 12 population. Due to this, I was in the bottom half on score for most of the game, until I got my riflemen and was able to expand my territory.
  10. DangerousMonkey

    DangerousMonkey Warlord

    Oct 2, 2005
    Actually, a strong player often lags behind his opponents in score in the early game. There are a lot of things that boost your score in the early game that don't always (though they sometimes do) make your civ stronger. Founding religions and building wonders are good examples. Also, it just so happens that the worst way to play the early game is also the best way to maximize your score early on: that is letting your capitol grow to a large size without building any workers or settlers.

    Also, a good player that intends to win militarily will be maximizing his production and commerce early on. This means fewer cities, no religion, and more workers, resulting in a lower score. However, this strategy allows you to build a powerful army for conquest.
  11. Matthevv

    Matthevv Chieftain

    Jan 12, 2004
    I'm always in last place early on. I prefer to build few cities early on, so the AI with its fast expansion always gets a bigger score. Where it goes from there depends on situation. If I'm on an island, or in another situation with room to expand, I will steadily overhaul the other Civs one by one as I gradually expand and grow. If I'm squashed in by other Civs on a continent, then my early attacks on a neighbour will usually leave me much higher up the scores earlier on. Score seems to be dominated by land owned, so it it pretty meaningless, as the quality of the land owned is much more important than the quantity for determining the ultimate winner (me!). For me, the only thing I find important is the tech race.

    For those that think growing your capital without building any workers is the worst way to start, this thread should prove interesting!
  12. crunch

    crunch Emperor

    Jul 28, 2003
    On noble it's fairly common to be ahead of AI most of the time even without wars. On higher levels I guess AI would be ahead initially unless you have a fantastic start.
  13. VirtualM

    VirtualM Chieftain

    Dec 14, 2005
    In my last Prince game, I caught up with the opponent and was the first one to hit 300 points. From that moment on, the difference became larger, doubling the best AI around approx. 2500 points.

    Strangely enough, on Monarch I also double the AI around 2500 points although it takes a lot longer to catch up. ??due to Cottage spam, maybe??

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