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Poland is too strong

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by Sherlock, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. Sherlock

    Sherlock Just one more turn...

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    And their religious units keep over running me.

    How do you absolutely get a religion? I keep building Holy sites, etc, but only get a Prophet half the time.
     
  2. kryat

    kryat Chieftain

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    Remember to use Holy Site prayers. That’s usually more efficient than building more sites and shrines. Also, it’s probable that Poland is getting Earth Goddess as their pantheon. That gives faith like nobody’s business.
     
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  3. cinattra

    cinattra Chieftain

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    I have played with them only once. I'm not good playing with religious civs. Will give them a try.
     
  4. Chefofrats

    Chefofrats Chieftain

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    Poland do not get any bonus to either faith or great prophet points generation, they are just programmed to focus on faith. There is nothing "too strong" about the civ. It is quite unlikely they will manage to win a religious victory on any other map than one of the smallest, so I think you can just ignore the whole thing. Or you can just conquer them, which would solve the problem too.
     
  5. Tech Osen

    Tech Osen Chieftain

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    Play Arabia.
     
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  6. Pietato

    Pietato Chieftain

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    Did you mean to post this on the Civ 5 board?
     
  7. Ferocitus

    Ferocitus Warlord

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    I find this can help a little...
    Send out units and scouts. When you find another civ with a holy site, declare
    war and pillage it. It might cost you a unit, but you will get a good fillip to
    your religious production and eliminate (or hamper) a potential competitor.
     
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  8. liv

    liv Warlord

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    Who are you playing as?
    I do not often go for religion since I find that you can better use your faith if you do not have a religion
    But sometimes if I do get a religion I may have to declare war to kill invading units.
     
  9. Ferocitus

    Ferocitus Warlord

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    It's a blessing and a curse. :)
    Watching pesky apostles and missionaries sniffing around your territory is
    annoying, but getting a quick Causus Belli is handy when others aren't
    available.
     
  10. liv

    liv Warlord

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    That is a lot effort for very little benefit. If I warmonger they will hate me. Causus Bellies are not very relevant.
    You can also keep your religion longer and stronger if you keep peace with your neighbours and ally since allies do not send units to destroy your religion.
     
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  11. Ferocitus

    Ferocitus Warlord

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    Sure, it's a lot of effort. I didn't say that's the reason you should
    try to get that causus - it's a small benefit, that's all.

    Allies don't try to destroy your religion, but not all alliances
    prevent them from converting your cities. I hate the units wandering
    through and learning what I'm doing. (That's my prerogative, not theirs!)
     
  12. row2infinity

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    Just kill them. Problem solved.
     
  13. darkpigraph

    darkpigraph Chieftain

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    Also remember that when the prophet race is getting close you can recruit one with gold or faith In the great people tab. The cost will go down depending on how close you are so this may make all the difference if it's a matter of just a few turns.
     
  14. sixty4half

    sixty4half Chieftain

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    Chop in Stonehenge
     
  15. Equilin

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    I was about to reply with this after seeing the thread title but looks like i'm too slow.
     
  16. The_Quasar

    The_Quasar Chieftain

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    Why not try playing Kongo, where you can't build a holy site, and encourage other civs to send their missionaries and apostles to you (you still get the benefit of any other religion that is in over 50% of your cities, even more than one (iirc))? Also, if you really don't like religion, you can turn off a religious victory in advanced options.
     
  17. Archon_Wing

    Archon_Wing Vote for me or die

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    Is Poland really any good? I mean the wildcard slot looks good on paper though it's certainly no Greek Bonus unless you're not using military cards at the start. I guess that makes a pantheon easier.

    Hussars seem pretty cool.
     
  18. acluewithout

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    Are Poland strong? Dunno.

    But Poland make both the Autocracy and Monarchy Governments more interesting. RnF also probably made their unique market more powerful. Getting production from international trade routes is very handy.

    You can get a religion more easily with Poland, but they’re not so strong with religion overall (ie the opposite of spain). So a fun Civ if you want to play with religion, but plan to still focus on other victory types. You can use faith to get Hassars etc.
     
  19. Disgustipated

    Disgustipated Warlord

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    Definitely not a strong civ for humans, but I don't care for religious civs to begin with. They don't suit my playstyle.

    AI Poland usually does well. They build both a lot of military units and focus on religious spam. They can be annoying to play against, but certainly not the toughest AI civ.
     
  20. UWHabs

    UWHabs Warlord

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    I tried a few starts as Poland recently and couldn't get into it much. I hate "having" to press for a religion with a civ, since often there's too many other competing priorities.

    I ended up sticking with a game as Lautaro instead, and in this game, I "rushed" for a religion when I saw that 40 or 50 turns in, only 2 prophets had dropped, I didn't have a neighbour civ try to take me out, and nobody else had put any points into prophets. So I got a later religion and less choice of beliefs, but it came more naturally, and made for a better religious experience. Nothing sucks more than trying to go religion from turn 1 only to have Russia next door and see a bunch of missionaries/apostles on your doorstep before you can even get one apostle built.
     
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